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Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:21 pm
by crow
Firstly I didn't choose the heading for this as there is nothing I ever do No matter what . Sterilization between washes seems to to be the biggest issue with this concept . Drying it out is not a feasible option as it would take to long and would almost certainly cause the timber to distort . There may well be a very good reason why things are not done like this and then again it might just be because "boilers aren't done that way"

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:28 pm
by R-sole
croweater wrote:Firstly I didn't choose the heading for this as there is nothing I ever do No matter what . Sterilization between washes seems to to be the biggest issue with this concept . Drying it out is not a feasible option as it would take to long and would almost certainly cause the timber to distort . There may well be a very good reason why things are not done like this and then again it might just be because "boilers aren't done that way"


aah, and you were clever enough to edit your previous post where you said 'I'm going to do it!' before you posted this :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

What would you like it to say? I'll change it for you...

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:33 pm
by crow
Rockchucker22 wrote:In all seriousness I have toyed with the idea of a white oak column, 3 plate whisky machine, why not( other than the obvious already pointed out)? Simple easy and cheaper, still need copper condensor, copper plates. Maybe a glass condensor.

yeah Rock I have thought of that as well but this would only be a goer if the column could be square . i just don't know enough about plates yet to give this more than a passing thought , although the swelling timber sure would make em tight

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:15 pm
by crow
audistiller wrote: why don't you start making a boiler the same as YHB has, the wooden barrel type design with a stainless insert

YHB very likely had many ppl say why don't you just use a keg and a triclover , he didn't and what he created is functional insulated not to mention attractive and what I like most about it its unique . Anyway as stated I think this concept may have some benefits that no other boiler could produce . Not trying something for the sole reason that no one else does is IMHO no reason at all . It may well be that some very good reasons come to light for not going down this path and if I wasn't willing to explore them then I wouldn't open it up to a forum via a thread , I'd just pigheadedly go ahead and build it and post the result . I didn't just dream this up last night , in fact I thought about the possibilities of this 15 or 20 yrs ago

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:37 pm
by MacStill
5Star wrote:
croweater wrote:Firstly I didn't choose the heading for this as there is nothing I ever do No matter what . Sterilization between washes seems to to be the biggest issue with this concept . Drying it out is not a feasible option as it would take to long and would almost certainly cause the timber to distort . There may well be a very good reason why things are not done like this and then again it might just be because "boilers aren't done that way"


aah, and you were clever enough to edit your previous post where you said 'I'm going to do it!' before you posted this :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

What would you like it to say? I'll change it for you...

Want me to remove the edit button again?

Re: 80 ltr, 6000w Boiler Project

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:01 pm
by crow
croweater wrote: fuck it I reckon I'll have a go at it

I'm not sure whats meant here :? if its this its still here . I'm sure all my editing was done straight after posting to add something or to fix typo's and change wording to better reflect my thinking EDIT and I qualified this (perhaps not clearly) as subject to feasibility , cost , effective result and everyone's opinion

Re: 80 ltr, 6000w Boiler Project

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:45 pm
by Panda
croweater wrote:
croweater wrote: fuck it I reckon I'll have a go at it

I'm not sure whats meant here :? if its this its still here . I'm sure all my editing was done straight after posting to add something or to fix typo's and change wording to better reflect my thinking EDIT and I qualified this (perhaps not clearly) as subject to feasibility , cost , effective result and everyone's opinion

My brain hurts

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:44 pm
by crow
Ok after spending most of the day looking in to this(should have been working) seems my idea is neither radical nor new here are some images of wooden boilers still in use that predate the invention of stainless steel and 2 of them are from the distillery who's rum id like to reproduce . Now that's what you call a mad coincidence

Re: 80 ltr, 6000w Boiler Project

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:47 pm
by stubbydrainer
Frank wrote:
Stubbydrainer,
how long do you reckonthe 6000w will take to bring up the temp to 'as required'???


Frank
I filled it with 72l water and it took 48 min to get it to 78*C , no insulation and an open top .

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:49 pm
by maheel
i was thinking rather than letting it "dry out" you could just fill it with water between runs ?

maybe send Pussers an email and ask them what sort of wood it is ?

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:57 pm
by crow
maheel wrote:i was thinking rather than letting it "dry out" you could just fill it with water between runs ?

maybe send Pussers an email and ask them what sort of wood it is ?

:handgestures-thumbupleft: I'd think oak but yes definitely worth an email good thinking might ask them about sterilization to . wineries do and have for centuries done wine in vats just like these without infections so.... got to be a way

Re: 80 ltr, 6000w Boiler Project

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:59 pm
by crow
stubbydrainer wrote:I filled it with 72l water and it took 48 min to get it to 78*C , no insulation and an open top .

Far out 48 min I wonder how quick in something well insulated

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:44 pm
by Panda
Does anyone else notice a strange soapy ish taste when you take the first sip of pussers. It's like licking cake soap for a second, then you don't taste it again for the rest of the night

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:48 pm
by audistiller
croweater wrote:Not trying something for the sole reason that no one else does is IMHO no reason at all . It may well be that some very good reasons come to light for not going down this path and if I wasn't willing to explore them then I wouldn't open it up to a forum via a thread

I think your enthusiasm is fantastic so don't stop with your ideas, I know where you are coming from, all I was suggesting is to put your energy and resources into something better and longer lasting. If your heart is in it, have a go, and of course do it for yourself not everyone else, I just don't see the benefit given a few major reasons you could be wasting your money, and a decent amount of quality ingredients.

Re: 80 ltr, 6000w Boiler Project

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:53 pm
by stubbydrainer
croweater wrote:Far out 48 min I wonder how quick in something well insulated


Dunno :shock: , Guess I'll find out one day :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Re: 80 ltr, 6000w Boiler Project

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:17 am
by crow
stubbydrainer wrote:
croweater wrote:Far out 48 min I wonder how quick in something well insulated


Dunno :shock: , Guess I'll find out one day :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Jeez just let me finish making Don's burner thingo before making me jealous of something else

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:38 am
by SBB
There isnt a hope of me attempting to build a wooden still.
Its and interesting story never the less............ http://www.pussers.com/t-rum-difference.aspx

Re: 80 ltr, 6000w Boiler Project

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:52 am
by stubbydrainer
croweater wrote:
stubbydrainer wrote:
croweater wrote:Far out 48 min I wonder how quick in something well insulated


Dunno :shock: , Guess I'll find out one day :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Jeez just let me finish making Don's burner thingo before making me jealous of something else


Yeah, I got one of them too :teasing-neener: :teasing-neener: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It No Matter What

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:31 am
by crow
Thanks for the link SBB I hadn't got around to looking at their site yet . I got the photo's Via just search words + images , anyway very interesting and backs up a lot of what I was already thinking . Anyway I still very well may do this , just got to decide if its worth making a boiler just for dark rum . Thinking it just might be :D

Re: Wooden Boiler Plan. I'm Going To Do It. Maybe.

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:54 am
by audistiller
Theres that much good stuff to read on the interweb, its difficult to remember even some of it. Cant remember how many nights I have found myself going through page after page of interesting information, only to find myself still going when the sun came up, and I still know nothing.