Is this possible if not ideas please

[Aussiedownunder01]

Hi wondering if this is possible if not how would you do this kind of thing
Was thinking something like this with my new purchase

[crow]

yeah look the tower doesn't need to be on the boiler, it will be often more efficient energy wise there but most commercial joints have the tower off set

[MacStill]

You'll need a way of diverting excess reflux from the bottom plate back to the boiler :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[Aussiedownunder01]

You'll need a way of diverting excess reflux from the bottom plate back to the boiler :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Ok thanks thats easy thanks

[emptyglass]

You also need the bottom of the column (return drain) above the wash level in the boiler, due to gravity or you need to incorporate a pump.

A lot of the commerctial set ups that use this set up also run "onions" (big bubble balls, with or without plates), so the top of the boiler becomes high.

[crow]

yes but they must pump though as I have looked as many many designs that would have the base well below the wash level , well pump or re vaporise I have often thought it was one of the two :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[emptyglass]

It would be pretty cool.
To have a pot still that is a killer pot still in its own right, and then be able to change a valve and run it through the plates. Would be a sweet set up.

[crow]

Right so we are all agreed then ok. Right ADU seems you have to knock up a bell, bubble ball or thumper for the top of the boiler and then a two way valve to send the vapour to either a pot condenser or onward and downward to an offset trayed column :handgestures-thumbupleft: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

[Aussiedownunder01]

Fuck what have i lit myself into :angry-banghead:
As they say theres nothing that a grumpy old man with time on his hands cant do ;-)

[bt1]

Geez I hope you got a great heat supply...your going to need it.

I'd also question the issue of smearing given the feed in will induce reflux and pool up spirit to some degree.

Not the easiest of designs by a long , long country mile.

bt1

[MacStill]

I'd also question the issue of smearing given the feed in will induce reflux and pool up spirit to some degree.

bt1

Like the first plate pools and smears ?

Wouldnt the other plates clean that up?

8-}

[emptyglass]

Heat is not really an issue. One would use more heat boiling up. Heat is usually throttled back once plates load.
Just like thumpers work with the vapor heat.

Maybe this is more what you are thinking of aussie.

[crow]

One seriously cool micro rig . About half that size would be the bomb :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[Aussiedownunder01]

Heat is not really an issue. One would use more heat boiling up. Heat is usually throttled back once plates load.
Just like thumpers work with the vapor heat.

Maybe this is more what you are thinking of aussie.

Thanks thats the one

[googe]

You have to make it aussie!! That's just so beautiful :D

[emptyglass]

If you care, look at a few things,
The bottom of the column is above the bottom of the fill port manhole, that puts it above the wash charge level.
The vapor entry "appears" to be above or about on the bottom plate, assuming its just below the lowest glass.
The vapor tube between the top of the onion to the bottom of the column is probably under 2" for a still much larger than a hobby one here.
The vapor tube from the top of the column is even smaller.
My guess is the bottom of the column has ??

I cant see much detail regarding the return drian plumbing.

[bt1]

bt1 wrote:
I'd also question the issue of smearing given the feed in will induce reflux and pool up spirit to some degree.

bt1

mac wrote:
Like the first plate pools and smears ?

Wouldnt the other plates clean that up?

How does that address the feed in tube natural reflux and pooling at the input of the column. I don't believe it does. Put another way why go to infinite trouble to make sure a RC or PC is dead level on top to avoid pooling, this seems prone to it.

On the subject of heat it's going to take a significant more to drive it surly compared with a inline column. That boiler base is prolly designed specifically for heating...it ain't no keg base deflecting heat.

bt1

[MacStill]

How does that address the feed in tube natural reflux and pooling at the input of the column. I don't believe it does. Put another way why go to infinite trouble to make sure a RC or PC is dead level on top to avoid pooling, this seems prone to it.

Addressed in my first response to this topic, obviously :roll:

I always have a low point in my condensers, naturally 8-}

[googe]

Why couldn't it just have a drain tube on the base of the column going back into the boiler, wouldn't the condensed liquid be powerfull enough to flow and stop vapor coming into the base of the column.?.

[MacStill]

Why couldn't it just have a drain tube on the base of the column going back into the boiler, wouldn't the condensed liquid be powerfull enough to flow and stop vapor coming into the base of the column.?.

What do you mean mate ?