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Grapes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:08 pm
by crow
I'm in SA (read gods country) and Grape season is under way :happy-partydance: :happy-partydance: :happy-partydance: I was thinking I would put some wine down and take it back home for running, unless I run some here to show the brother in law how to run the old pot still
So who else has grapes in their sights for this season and what varieties are you looking at/have access to

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:54 pm
by emptyglass
No grapes here, but I've heard you can use the same method/recipie for slivovitz and you will make pisco. Not sure of the best varietys though.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:56 pm
by invisigoth
mudgee isn't too far away for me. i know there is cab sav and chardonnay out there, but i had heard there was also some italian and portuguese vines kicking around out there too. i had some metaxa once. i'd be keen to do something similar. :dance:
think i need access to muscat for that.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:28 am
by crow
Pisco is made from muscat varieties, but the fortified wine known as muscat is often made from gordo's which I believe is somewhat similar to white muscat as is palamino's . I will take what I can get cheap or free and it will get made into brandy.
Peeps if you can only get black grapes don't panic , you can still make a nice clear white wine and here's how. when you press/crush the grapes make sure you strain out the mark (skins and flesh) as soon as possible, the longer you leave it the most tannins ect will leach into the juice. Ok now once strained of pitch the yeast and you will very soon see any remaining mark and colour drop as sediment on the bottom of the fermenter, whul la : bianca vino :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:20 am
by Goldie
I am interested in putting some wine down, wanna try a red first up but unsure what is a good grape to begin.
I Have been looking at grape prices here and everything seems very expensive, haven't had much time to explore and find something decent but hopefully will be able soon.

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:04 am
by bt1
Crow,

Not sure on grapes ...it's new area for me so is it poss to get a basic method for doing grapes so got some ideas on what's needed how it's done sorta stuff.

I guess what are the normal drinks made for distillers would be a good start to work out if it appeals.

bt1

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:29 am
by crow
@ Goldie try aproaching growers in the Swan Valley , they may let you clean up the vines after mechanical harvesting for free or quite cheap
@ bt Just make a very basic white wine for distilling . Just crush the grapes, strain if they are not white grapes
(You can strain anyway if you wish). There will be no need to add water or sugar and try to pitch with a wine yeast.
There is wild yeast on grapes but this is more often slow moving . Depending on the variety you may have to adjust the pH

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:34 am
by MacStill
Goldie wrote:I am interested in putting some wine down, wanna try a red first up but unsure what is a good grape to begin.
I Have been looking at grape prices here and everything seems very expensive, haven't had much time to explore and find something decent but hopefully will be able soon.


Cheap Grapes WA :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:10 am
by Goldie
Cheers Mac, all my last gumtree searches have been dismal.

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:35 pm
by wynnum1
Interesting comment on Bob Katters Facebook page" Kevin McCarthy My neighbor will be dumping 150 tonnes of Rhine Riesling on the ground shortly. No wineries want them, even though they are top quality. They have to be harvested , if left on the vine they continue to draw next years nutrients, so on the ground they will go. Anyone know anyone who wants them?"

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:36 pm
by blond.chap
Yes please

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:40 pm
by crow
Your kidding , wheres that? Yeah bloke working at a winery here was talking but yeast , said I need to get some wine yeast does that mob sell it he laught and said he'll bring me in a sandwich bag of it tonight :handgestures-thumbupleft: . I've been to busy to get on to any growers yet, got a 60 ltr bucket of apples to do as well (no fucking way to crush them though) :roll:
Edit reisling is top shit for brandy :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Grapes

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:16 pm
by BackyardBrewer
60L of apple ? I'd do half as cider and half as apple calvados brandy.

Lucky mongrel!

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:53 pm
by SBB
crow wrote:got a 60 ltr bucket of apples to do as well (no fucking way to crush them though)

Anything wrong with running them through a juicer Crow????

Grapes

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:10 pm
by BackyardBrewer
SBB it's tedious and time consuming and you end up with a lot of pulp that's fine if you're doing cider, but really hard to filter for a spirit.

I've done a lot of pears for perry cider from our tree through the juicer and it took forever to do and forever to clear and filter.

Crushing would be work heaps better.

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:22 pm
by crow
Well I got grapes , late yes I know but I'm amazed at how much juice they still have and being so late very very sweet

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:37 pm
by emptyglass
Whats the plan??

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:44 pm
by crow
maika de vino den maika da grappa :D

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:48 pm
by emptyglass
If anyone can, the brandy man can

The brandy man can, cos he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good.

You got just the still for the job mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Grapes

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:02 pm
by crow
yeah but not here I don't hmm might be carting low wines home and all my wine making stuff has been re purposed :roll: .
Datsa ok we do it lieka day do in de old country .