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Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:36 pm
by Yummyrum
You guys are stars :D

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:36 pm
by the Doctor
Seriously we are building it so a total closed scenario is impossible.... But I still like the idea of low orbit. Cheers.
Doc

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:37 pm
by 1 2many
the Doctor wrote:
1 2many wrote:Just getting back to that T and valve arrangement you said it was getting some cool stuff done in a local machine shop would that be some sort of a blow off valve devise, Cause the way it is at the moment looks very dangerous , Two valves closed woudn't be a good scenario :scared-eek:

Really it depends on what you are trying to achieve...low orbit or full escape velocity... at first Mac and i will be happy to achieve low orbit...But someday...the stars.
Doc :teasing-neener:


:)) :)) I like it. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:42 pm
by the Doctor
Yummyrum wrote:You guys are stars :D

Mate Mac is a star...he has worked harder to get this just right than any distiller has the right to ask from a builder/designer...I recieved another big box of parts today...and damn it but it yet again exceeded my expectations....again!... He is a hard core perfectionist... I have been accused of being a perfectionist... But Mac your gear makes me feel like an underachiever. outstanding mate, just outstanding.
Doc

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:23 pm
by MacStill
A couple of different angles as requested via PM

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I have a couple more units coming but only one is spoken for, however I could have more available for delivery before xmas no problem at all :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Thank you all for the kind words, as usual your support is most welcomed & appreciated.

Cheers.

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:40 pm
by the Doctor
The large Hadron collider of stills...That is one very serious piece of equipment... In fact I get a Hadron just looking at it.
Doc

:oops:

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:58 pm
by MacStill
ok for those interested in the valve configuration here's a very rough drawing of how we're going to set up the dual take offs, just pull the chain to switch from vodka to gin, or vise versa :happy-partydance:

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The drawing is obviously flawed and the end result wont be quite as pictured, all the linkages and mechanism is being made from SS 304 with instructions to keep it looking like 20,000 leagues under the sea /slash/ steampunk :D

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:23 pm
by Frothwizard
MacStill wrote:ok for those interested in the valve configuration here's a very rough drawing of how we're going to set up the dual take offs, just pull the chain to switch from vodka to gin, or vise versa :happy-partydance:

LINKAGE.JPG


The drawing is obviously flawed and the end result wont be quite as pictured, all the linkages and mechanism is being made from SS 304 with instructions to keep it looking like 20,000 leagues under the sea /slash/ steampunk :D


That's a simple yet elegant design.

Hats off to you.

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:42 am
by dogbreath vodka
MacStill wrote: all the linkages and mechanism is being made from SS 304 with instructions to keep it looking like 20,000 leagues under the sea /slash/ steampunk :D


Contagious isn't' it :D :D

Mate that is a work of art.

Definite thumbs up there.

Question though, are you doing two of them so that you can swap from one to the other while the still is running?
Hence the need for the valve system?
The link between the gin head and the valve system I can't quite get yet.

DBV

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:51 am
by the Doctor
DBV the idea is that one does not have to disturb the run to change botanical baskets. The column will be perhaps 3.8 metres tall so control of vapour flow can be bought down to a safe working height by the use of the valve system. I also want to use the carter head not just for gin but also for my pure vodka ( brand name ) using the Reyka method of passing the vodka through a carter head of fine crushed volcanic rock. I have tasted the Reyka vodka and believe it to be the best I have ever tasted. With the valve system I can decide when I am in the heart of hearts and redirect through the volcanic strata. I am constantly experimenting and the valve system will enable me to test many variables for short run lengths. Also I can make specialist gins where I can run a number of botanicals separately in the same run without shutting down and the costs to the run that that entails. All in all it gives me two re -configurable stills running of one boiler.Cheers.
Doc

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:52 pm
by 1 2many
MacStill wrote:ok for those interested in the valve configuration here's a very rough drawing of how we're going to set up the dual take offs, just pull the chain to switch from vodka to gin, or vise versa :happy-partydance:

LINKAGE.JPG


The drawing is obviously flawed and the end result wont be quite as pictured, all the linkages and mechanism is being made from SS 304 with instructions to keep it looking like 20,000 leagues under the sea /slash/ steampunk :D


I would have gone with two cogs and a chain connecting the valves rather than the linkages i think it would operate a bit smoother . Just my 2 cents :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:58 pm
by MacStill
Yeah it was our preference too, however with that system there's always some play between the cogs so it's problematic getting one valve fully open and the other fully closed.

The other thing we needed to consider is reliability due to Doc's location, and we were assured this lever system was the most trustworthy..... wouldnt want to get caught out with a 300L boiler full of low wines $$$ and this system is fairly bomb proof.

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:03 pm
by 1 2many
MacStill wrote:Yeah it was our preference too, however with that system there's always some play between the cogs so it's problematic getting one valve fully open and the other fully closed.

The other thing we needed to consider is reliability due to Doc's location, and we were assured this lever system was the most trustworthy..... wouldnt want to get caught out with a 300L boiler full of low wines $$$ and this system is fairly bomb proof.


Yes that is a problem the slack because the chain would be going in both directions the play would double. :doh:

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:19 pm
by 1 2many
1 2many wrote:
MacStill wrote:Yeah it was our preference too, however with that system there's always some play between the cogs so it's problematic getting one valve fully open and the other fully closed.

The other thing we needed to consider is reliability due to Doc's location, and we were assured this lever system was the most trustworthy..... wouldnt want to get caught out with a 300L boiler full of low wines $$$ and this system is fairly bomb proof.


Yes that is a problem the slack because the chain would be going in both directions the play would double. :doh:


No figured it out :)) you need 4 cogs and 2 chains off set to each direction of travel and may be 2 idlers that would make it work i recon. :D

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:14 pm
by MacStill
1 2 :))

We have other engineering considerations of a higher importance than the need for a 12 ton franna to assemble this rig :O)

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:21 pm
by the Doctor
Nothing to do with this but felt I should share this with you... I came up with this today but Lyn said absolutely no... I thought it was a good ad?
It made me laugh!
Doc
Mods toss it if it is a step too far...

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Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:58 pm
by MacStill
I'll bet I know someone who'll plagiarize that for his own bottle labels :))

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:06 pm
by CHEROKEE
Already on it, ink still drying on first draft. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:15 pm
by the Doctor
I've designed one especially for you Cherokee...
Doc

Re: Docs FSD Carter Head.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:17 pm
by Canadoz
the Doctor wrote:DBV the idea is that one does not have to disturb the run to change botanical baskets. The column will be perhaps 3.8 metres tall so control of vapour flow can be bought down to a safe working height by the use of the valve system. I also want to use the carter head not just for gin but also for my pure vodka ( brand name ) using the Reyka method of passing the vodka through a carter head of fine crushed volcanic rock. I have tasted the Reyka vodka and believe it to be the best I have ever tasted. With the valve system I can decide when I am in the heart of hearts and redirect through the volcanic strata. I am constantly experimenting and the valve system will enable me to test many variables for short run lengths. Also I can make specialist gins where I can run a number of botanicals separately in the same run without shutting down and the costs to the run that that entails. All in all it gives me two re -configurable stills running of one boiler.Cheers.
Doc


I think the only way I'm ever going to understand any of that is to visit you someday and watch you run it.