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How much copper mesh for a column?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:40 pm
by TheMechwarrior
All,

I'm putting together a taller 3" version of my 2" VM still and I'd like some guidance on the amount of FSD copper mesh I'll need for my 1500mm column?
My 2" has a 1200mm column for those interested in the comparison and pot scrubbers were a perfect fit for the 2".

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Re: How much packing for a 3" x 1500mm column?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:14 pm
by MacStill
I just checked with a few off cuts I have lying around & rolled up a few different sizes, I've roughly calculated the amounts required for 100mm column length.

2" = 120g
3" = 230g
4" = 500g

It's only meant as a guide, it will vary a little depending how tight each person rolls it :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How much packing for a 3" x 1500mm column?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:39 pm
by TheMechwarrior
That's bloody awesome Mac, thanks :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How much packing for a 3" x 1500mm column?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:27 pm
by Yummyrum
I'm a bit confused ....in the pic there is a rolled up "wad" for want of a better word .

Do you just keep pushing these rolled wads in against each other ? ....how long are they each ? Mac when you say 2" = 0.12kG ,is that per wad or for a fully packed column and if so what length

EDit : OK I think I got it ...the wad is 100mm long and weighs 0.12KG so for a 1 meter 2" column I would need 1.2KG worth

Re: How much packing for a 3" x 1500mm column?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:32 pm
by MacStill
Yummyrum wrote:
EDit : OK I think I got it ...the wad is 100mm long and weighs 0.1KG so for a 1 meter 2" column I would need 1KG worth


Yep that's it :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How much packing for a 3" x 1500mm column?

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:31 pm
by benmick6
great help thanks. will order a 1kg roll when I get the elements.
Ben

Re: How much copper mesh for a column?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:24 pm
by MacStill
We have received our new shipment of copper mesh, it's the exact same stuff we have always stocked that has a small amount of oil coating it that needs cleaning prior to use.

The deal with the oil free mesh fell through, but this gear is rated highly by those using it and is now available in our webstore :handgestures-thumbupleft:

I just need to update the product description ;-)

Re: How much copper mesh for a column?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:19 pm
by danwbrews
I'm a newbie and this is my first build. I know this is an old post but I've been looking for it for days to find out about how much packing I need for my refux column .
Thanks for the info. I just got my #4 of copper mesh to pack my column. This will help me figure out how long to cut it.
This forum is so much better for finding information than all others. Ya'll are very clear (for the most part) and are hard core because of you're knowledge, but I have found that's because you care about the craft.
Thanks or being here.
danwbrews

Re: How much copper mesh for a column?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:12 pm
by Arismac
I use two rolls of firmly wound copper mesh and insert them into a T500 below the spirit outlet. This should give a total length of about 600mm (8 inches) of mesh in the column. I no longer use any saddles above the copper mesh.

I also double still the spirit and to produce a very good neutral spirit.

It is worth remembering that the mesh provides a far greater total area of copper than saddles or tubing. This means a far greater "extraction" surface for the sulphur per column length. Therefore directing the rising vapour through a density of copper mesh is probably the best answer for a reflux column.