sestos D1S-VR-220 PID controller

[mickiboi]

Thats what a temperature controller does. It controls temperature. Not being a smart arse or anything but have I missed something?

[MacStill]

So whats the purpose of using the SSR and the pot on the element in the boiler in the first place? Is it just to save power?

Controlling stills by temperature ;-)

Just to clarify why I waded in and posted the link.

I run a 6" x 4 plate rig on around 4500w for the hearts run, however I use 6000w to heat the boiler.

There's 3 cuts to my run.

Shit 1 - hearts - shit 2

Shit 1 is taken at lower power (drippy slow take off with prostate issues)

Hearts is taken after ramping up to the desired take off rate. (aaaahhhhh)

Shit 2 is taken at full power (piss like mule)

:))

edit: sorry if I confused anyone with all my technical jargon :-B

[mickiboi]

OK, so humour me for a minute.

Shit 1. Taken at lower power. So lower power would mean a lower temperature. Or am I wrong?

Hearts. Taken at higher power but not flat out. Which would mean a higher temperature than Shit 1 but lower than Shit 2.
Or am I wrong?

Shit 2. Taken at Full Power so higher temperature again. Or am I wrong?

Just asking.

[MacStill]

no! er yes! er... you're wrong

if you see the link and can read it you'll see the temp of a wash in a boiler is controlled by the boiling point of the alcohol volume (ABV%), the amount of power you throw at it just makes it boil between simmering and full on, which in turn (if you use power management like I do) can be used to determine take off speeds.

I think that makes sense ?

[mickiboi]

Umm yes I can read and I do understand what you're saying.

No need to be condescending Mac.

I am just saying that if you use the pot to manually control temperature for your take off rate, then why not let a temperature controller do it for you?

Power management = boiler in temperature. Controller output = boiler temperature.

[1 2many]

You did read this yeah.
http://aussiedistiller.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=3541

[MacStill]

Actually I wasn't being condescending at all, so ya might want to pull your head in for a minute when I'm trying to fucking help you understand something.... how's that for condescending ?

I believe mr many might be building a HERMS :think:

[mickiboi]

No your last post isnt condescending at all. Asking me if I can read is.

You did read this yeah.
http://aussiedistiller.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=3541

Yes I did read that and I totally understand it.

I give up

[MacStill]

I give up.

Good move ;-)

No your last post isnt condescending at all. Asking me if I can read is.

No it's not, read it again.

Every day some squeezer comes here with an attitude and want a piece of me, I'm over it, I just tried to help, if you dont like it fuck off back to HD ;-)

[mickiboi]

I give up.

Good move ;-)

No your last post isnt condescending at all. Asking me if I can read is.

No it's not, read it again.

Every day some squeezer comes here with an attitude and want a piece of me, I'm over it, I just tried to help, if you dont like it fuck off back to HD ;-)

I don't want a piece of anybody Mac. I do understand what you're saying about how you do your cuts using power management. All I want to know is why can't you do it using a temperature controller when its doing the same thing as using a pot controlled SSR? Thats it.

[MacStill]

the answer is in the link :angry-banghead:

[mickiboi]

the answer is in the link :angry-banghead:

Because you have to continually adjust the power as the amount of alcohol decreases which changes the temperature in the boiler?

[MacStill]

oh man :angry-banghead: it's just another way of running the still, heads compression etc.... nothing to do with temps, I dont even have a temp guage on my still.

to me distilling is an art, not a science..... I do however get the basic concepts (-|

[1 2many]

To far off topic,Anyho I have a plan and will test it, just scored a 350x300 steel cabinet with din rails and some control gear pick it up tomorrow . :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[MacStill]

sorry mate, started out trying to help.

back under my rock now :oops:

[1 2many]

All good mate you did help. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[backyard brewdog]

So let me get this right because i was thinking of wiring something similar up myself.

I can't use the same ssr to control via pot and a pid?

I was thinking of using a cam switch like this

Position 1 - Full power (Bypass ssr)
Position 2 - Pot control
Position 3 - PID control

The ssr required for a pid is different to the one for a pot?

[1 2many]

So let me get this right because i was thinking of wiring something similar up myself.

I can't use the same ssr to control via pot and a pid?

I was thinking of using a cam switch like this

Position 1 - Full power (Bypass ssr)
Position 2 - Pot control
Position 3 - PID control

The ssr required for a pid is different to the one for a pot?

what type of SSR do you have there is the DA type that uses a seperate controller as in a PID or PWM , Arduino, raspberry PI. And there is the VA type that is controlled by a pot.

ssr type.jpg

[MacStill]

No wonder I hate electrics, I'd have better luck understanding hieroglyphics (thank puck for spell check lol) 8-}

:text-imsorry: :text-threadjacked: :text-imnewhere:

[backyard brewdog]

Pretty sure my pot controller at the moment is da. I suppose it's only really another $10 to order another ssr. Might just do that.

Do you know if this sestos has the ramp/soak function or would it be a manual thing like a stc1000