1 inch Liebieg condenser

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1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:23 pm

Hi guys finally getting the stuff together to build my copper pot still. I'm going for a 2 inch with the colum being 750mm to the top of the 90 degree elbow then about 200mm into a 45 degree 2inch bend then about 200mm into a 2inch to one inch reducer for my leibeig which will have a 1 inch core with a 2inch outer that will be 750mm long.
Does this sound like a good direction to go, haven't ordered anything yet just trying to nut out a design first. It will be mounted on top of a 50l keg with one of macs weld less 2200 wat elements.
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Zak Griffin » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:31 pm

If you're going to use a 2" outer for your condenser, why not build a shotgun? :think:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby andybear » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:49 pm

:text-+1: if you put 4 x 1/2" tubes you'll get so much vapour to copper contact, it'll condense any amount of vapour. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby bluc » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:13 pm

Or cut the leiberg down to inch over 3/4 700mm long cooling jacket. But if you want to give the shotgun a try go for it :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby rumdidlydum » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:27 pm

A 2inch pot with 2 shotty will future proof any further builds if you esay flange it.
Also if you go for a second element for stripping it will easly handle it.
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:45 am

The only reason I'm going for a Liebieg is I have never soldered before and want I want to try something simple just to get use to it. If a two inch over one inch at 750 mm long is too big ill go for a inch over 3/4 that's 750mm long.
Was just thinking that bigger is better :think:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Zak Griffin » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:36 am

My 2" Shotgun was the first soldering I had ever done... It's no harder than making a leibig.

It will also mean you don't have to build another condenser when you build a bubbler :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby WTDist » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:54 am

same, my first solder attempt was my shotgun
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:12 pm

If I do a shotgun condenser will I still need a voltage controller or will the condenser handle the element at full power? Also is there a soldering tutorial I can read/watch tried looking on here but had trouble driving my phone today.
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby bluc » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:22 pm

Plumby wrote:If I do a shotgun condenser will I still need a voltage controller or will the condenser handle the element at full power? Also is there a soldering tutorial I can read/watch tried looking on here but had trouble driving my phone today.

The idea of the voltage controller (used just on spirit run)is to slow the output for cleaner seperation of the alcohol into foreshots/ head/ hearts /tails and to prevent them smearing together giving poor quality final product, not because the condenser cant handle the amount of output. A shotgun will handle full power as will a leiberg condenser cheers :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Sam. » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:39 pm

Soft soldering :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:58 pm

Thanks for the help Sam. You are a legend :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:41 pm

So its been a smidge over a year since I started to organize my still and I'm nearly ready to start building lol. But that's life I suppose full of unexpected shit.
Anyway here is a pic of my 2inch with the start of my easy flange, all feedback is appreciated. Decided to go 350mm out of the keg though then 2inch 90 bend, a 200mm long piece of 2inch I to another 90 anlged downward then into a 2- 3/4 inch reducer with a 1 inch over 3/4 liebieg 750mm long.
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby WTDist » Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:33 pm

what are you joining on to? keg or t500 adapter?

Edit, never mind reread 8-}

good to see your starting

in that 200mm 2" lyn arm you could make a clamp there so each time you setup the collection angle is set to what you want
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:41 pm

Didn't even think of that WT. Just easy flange both ends and use an endless gasket (the pfte tape wrapped around cardboard one ) and 2inch tri clamp?
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Zak Griffin » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:52 pm

You could also use the reducer before the second elbow, and use a 3/4" elbow instead of 2"...
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:42 am

Got my copper cut today 400mm long column. 250mm long lyne arm, 200mm long tube into a 11/4,over 3/4 750mm long liebieg. Now to get my reducers and elbows during the week.
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Zak Griffin » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:49 am

You can save yourself a couple of $ and put the 2"-1" reducer before the elbows, and use a 1" lyne arm :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Plumby » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:45 am

I thought about that Zac but I decided to go with this design as I can use all the copper bits in my shed and I only have to buy the reducers and bends.
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Re: 1 inch Liebieg condenser

Postby Zak Griffin » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:52 pm

Fair enough :handgestures-thumbupleft:

As mentioned earlier, an easy flange on the lyne arm will let you set your collection height at whatever you want, certainly necessary though. You'll also be able to pack the still up and hide it on a smaller spot if you need to ;-)
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