Whats involved in making the hobby legal in AU?

[atec77]

Obvious thing to be done , is legitimise home distilling , set a volume , say 100 or 200 liters a year and not try to grab tax ... foreign idea to government but right now the get sfa tax from it anyway
this way they get the tax from materials used , legalise a thriving cottage hobby and it is win win , New Zealand has been working perfectly so maybe our messed up controllers can try this one as well

[Wellsy]

Sometimes it is better off letting sleeping dogs lie. Anybody who goes legal does not have to produce a minimum amount each year.
If the powers that be believe there are thousands of home distillers out there they might start looking for them.

[hgwells]

Sometimes it is better off letting sleeping dogs lie. Anybody who goes legal does not have to produce a minimum amount each year.
If the powers that be believe there are thousands of home distillers out there they might start looking for them.

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[MattSmith]

So, my take is, that until government at a federal level can rationalise this part of the tax regime, which will invariably involve negotiation with the states, then there's SFA chance that there'll be reform in the DIY sector. Given federal government priorities at the moment, I'd say that the political will for this one is not strong.

I don't think Excise tax reform (or lack thereof) is going to have any impact on legalising the hobby. The tax system is complex but IMO it's simpler to understand than some of the recipes/processes published here.

It's not really a revenue thing either, I doubt there would be many of us that would exceed the 9500+ litres (@ 40%) that commercial distillers can produce before having to pay anything.

Rather I think it's a product safety concern. You can't do to much damage brewing beer (other than through outright consumption). But there's real safety risks with distilling spirits.

Plus there's no political points available here.

[The Stig]

set a volume , say 100 or 200 liters a year

Who would police or enforce this ?
Some may say thats not enough (us heavy drinkers) and some will say its way too much and must be selling (the do gooders and tax dept)

Sometimes it is better off letting sleeping dogs lie. Anybody who goes legal does not have to produce a minimum amount each year.
If the powers that be believe there are thousands of home distillers out there they might start looking for them.

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[iOnaBender]

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Just STFU!

Cheers

[atec77]

set a volume , say 100 or 200 liters a year

Who would police or enforce this ?
Some may say thats not enough (us heavy drinkers) and some will say its way too much and must be selling (the do gooders and tax dept)

Sometimes it is better off letting sleeping dogs lie. Anybody who goes legal does not have to produce a minimum amount each year.
If the powers that be believe there are thousands of home distillers out there they might start looking for them.

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Well it works fine in NZ , gentlemen don't cheat on tax or sell to others... right ?
and the average Ozzie bloke is a Gent ... right ?
problem solved

[iOnaBender]

FFS stop dreaming and poking the bear, the fucked up government/ATO, need to work out how to tax it before they'll make it legal. Currentyly It's illegal in Oz (so live with it!) and always will be until the cunts in (goverment work out how to it tax ffs).

Spend more time experimenting with differrent washes and techniques to perfect your craft to your specific tastes than worrying if it'll become legal!

If not, get another hobby to fill in your time FFS!

Rant over "Drops the Mic"

Cheers

[The Stig]

Sounds like somebody needs a hug :romance-kisscheek:

[bluc]

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[BigRig]

FFS stop dreaming and poking the bear, the fucked up government/ATO, need to work out how to tax it before they'll make it legal. Currentyly It's illegal in Oz (so live with it!) and always will be until the cunts in (goverment work out how to it tax ffs).

Spend more time experimenting with differrent washes and techniques to perfect your craft to your specific tastes than worrying if it'll become legal!

If not, get another hobby to fill in your time FFS!

Rant over "Drops the Mic"

Cheers

Already gets my vote for post of the year 2023. ^:)^

[iOnaBender]

Sounds like somebody needs a hug :romance-kisscheek:

No, just a 200ltr milk can! :laughing-rolling:

FFS stop dreaming and poking the bear, the fucked up government/ATO, need to work out how to tax it before they'll make it legal. Currentyly It's illegal in Oz (so live with it!) and always will be until the cunts in (goverment work out how to it tax ffs).

Spend more time experimenting with differrent washes and techniques to perfect your craft to your specific tastes than worrying if it'll become legal!

If not, get another hobby to fill in your time FFS!

Rant over "Drops the Mic"

Cheers

Already gets my vote for post of the year 2023. ^:)^

I may have been further into that aged rum than I thought…….

Cheers

[Wellsy]

Thanks for the explanation Bender, I thought you must have posted it before you had been for your Pooh that day :laughing-rolling:

For the record I do not disagree with your sentiment mate lol