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Postby The Stig » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:20 pm

I would like one of our senior members (all welcome) to do a step by step write up on making good cuts that we could post in the beginners section and make a sticky.
As most of you know (well some) I dont have the knowledge to do this so I am asking one of you fine folk to do it.
Please remember, this will be for the average beginner that knows nothing so keep the big words, sarcasm and distilling jargon to a minimum.
Please post your writings here or pm me if you wish to remain anonymous and I will post it and make it a PDF download.
Once everybody is done we will vote on the best write up.
Full credit will be given to the author unless otherwise stated.
I thank you for your help.
Stig
PS, you are probably asking why now - I see a deluge of newbies getting store bought stills for xmas and we need to be ready and not grumpy "cough 5Star cough" :teasing-neener:
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby R-sole » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:27 am

I'm not grumpy because the bloke asked the question. I'm grumpy cause he repeatedly ignored the answer.

That's not likely to change. :roll:
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby R-sole » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:11 am

I'm very sure that Kiwi wouldn't mind you just reproducing the excellent work he has already done.

••••••••••••••••• Credit to Kiwi (Kiwistiller)
The Lazy Stiller's Novice Guide to Cuts and Fractions (pot still)

This guide is aimed at educating a pot still novice about the different fractions in a distillation, and to help them learn how to make cuts between them.

1 - What are cuts and fractions?
2 - An outline of fractions
3 - Cuts and blending the easy way


1 - What are cuts and fractions?

Cuts are the points in a distillation run where the stiller separates the distillate into separate fractions (divisions between sections of the run). In order to make good cuts, it is important to understand what the different fractions of a run are, and how to recognise them.


2 - An outline of fractions

Once you know your equipment and your mash, fractions are fairly predictable. The ABV% will drop (and temp will rise) over the course of the run, and this is one indicator of cut points that can be used as a crutch to judge with. However, temperature and %ABV are not recommended as a guide for cuts. Vapour temp is directly related to %ABV, just basic physics. If you know the temp you can reliably predict the %abv, and vice versa. They tell you the same information. For example, 20% abv output = 98C. There is a chart for converting temps to %ABV and a more detailed discussion of this here

There is an issue of reading the temp correctly, ie in the right place, at the very top of the vapour path, just where it turns down into the lyne arm / product condenser. But that is a very minor design detail compared to the unreliability of thermometers.

Temp is no worse than %abv for deciding where to make the cuts, but both are rough guides at best. Cuts are (should be) ultimately made by taste and smell, not %abv or vapour temp.

I will provide some ROUGH figures as to where the fractions can be expected. These will be in %ABV as I think the average alcoholmeter / alcometer is probably more accurate than the average thermometer, and many folks don't have thermometers in their pot stills. Fractions normally follow this rough outline:

1: Foreshots - this fraction is the first part of the distillate collected. A major component of this fraction is acetone, or nail polish remover. But there are other compounds in there as well. In my experience, often the very first drops of foreshots, that can start slowly coming over from around 40-45C, have a wonderful, rich, sweet smell, but you really don't want to be drinking this stuff (headache city ).

On a pot still, the absolute minimum that should be allocated to foreshots is 150ml per 25l of wash. So, for a second distillation of, say, 3 stripped 25l washes (with no cuts made in the first distillation), you would want to discard 450ml of foreshots. This fraction should never be recycled, or used in any way for beverages, but it does have some uses. It's a great solvent, can be saved for cleaning runs of new stilling equipment, and is great for starting charcoal BBQs. Use it around the house / shed in place of methylated spirits (denatured alcohol).

In my still charged with 40% low wines, this fraction reads about 82% on the alcoholmeter / alcometer)

2: Heads - Heads are a mix of methanol, acetone, ethyl-acetate and ethanol as the main components.

Because a pot still does not separate the different fractions very cleanly, there will be diminishing 'nasty stuff' and increasing hearts (ethanol) throughout this fraction. While not completely awful like the foreshots, heads is generally blamed for hangovers, and a sharp biting taste. Like foreshots, they can smell sometimes smell a little sweet and buttery, but will have a biting, solvent like, alcohol sting to them as well. Many seasoned shiners will start to notice heads in store bought alcohol, especially vodkas. Most people find it desirable to remove the heads from finished product as well as the foreshots. There is however a lot of usable ethanol in the heads fraction, so the standard practice is to save the heads in a separate 'feints' (see later) container for further processing. If you can't be bothered, throw them in with the foreshots.

In my still charged with 40% low wines, this fraction is from about 82 to 80% on the alcoholmeter /alcometer. In our hypothetical still charge of three stripped 25l sugar washes, I would expect to collect roughly 2-3 liters of heads, maybe more (I really don't like them). Some people are more sensitive to the tastes of different fractions than others, so you will have to find your own tolerances. Also, some washes will produce a lot more heads / foreshots than others. Apple brandy, for example, is notorious for having a large proportion of heads, while for a full bodied, sweet rum, you might actually want a touch of heads in your final (at the cost of the headache that follows the next day, probably).

3: Hearts - The hearts, or 'body' fraction as it is sometimes called is the purest section of the run in ethanol terms. Hearts is very clean tasting and smelling, without the chemical bite of heads, but still with good flavour. When you are blending your fractions, the hearts should be considered the foundation that you build your product on.

Hearts will generally start around 80% abv in a run of 40% low wines, but again, this will vary. A very conservative lower cut for, say, a mild whisky, might be 70%. for a full bodied spirit like rum, you may go quite deep into the tails, even as low as 50%. Some may go even lower. The hearts will probably be the biggest fraction you collect in your run, but this will again depend upon what you are making.

4: Tails - The tails of a run are signalled by the distinctive and pretty unpleasant smell of wet dog, wet cardboard, damp socks, etc. As well as the change in smell and tastes, and the dropping ABV, the collection rate for a given power input slows as well at the onset of tails, (and continues to fall through the tails).

Tails are rich in fusel oils, which cause unwanted tastes in your product. Some times you can see an oily film on top of the collected tails. Some parts of the tails, if left for a day or so, will start to develop floating crystalline... things. This is all highly undesirable in your product.

As the tails progress, the underlying taste of the product will probably become stronger, and more bitter, cardboardy notes will keep coming through. Late tails generally just tastes of dirty water to me. This will vary substantially depending upon the mash.

The tails still have quite a high proportion of ethanol, however, and some of the deepest flavours of all can be hidden in the tails fraction (see Pugirum for a discussion of this). It is generally desirable to recycle these tails with the heads into the feints container, and add them back to the next run. Alternatively, if storage is not an issue for you, you can save them up and do a all feints run, which will produce a very special, deeply flavourful product. This is highly recommended, for a rum at least. Other flavoured spirits may vary. There is no point doing this for a neutral/ vodka of course.

ASIDE: if you are running an all feints spirit charge, it might be better to do these runs a bit slower than usual for a spirit run.

Tails are normally collected until the distiller decides the abv returned is not worth the time and heat being applied to the still. Personally, I take down to 10%, but many people seem to use 20%.


3 - Cuts and blending the easy way

Some stillers simply just save the hearts cut for drinking, and recycle all the feints back into the next run, or into the feints jar for an all feints run when it is full. Some like to blend small amounts of various fractions from the heads and/or tails back into the hearts, to add particular extra flavours. There is no right and wrong way. Personal preference rules here.

Being capable of cutting the fractions directly off the still and without a alcoholmeter / alcometer etc is a huge accomplishment for a distiller. But for the novice, this is a daunting art that will take runs (and mistakes) to perfect. There is an easier way, however.

Procure a good number of small (say 500ml) jars, number them, and get a big ol pot that is big enough to hold everything you'll want to blend. Collect your run in these numbered jars, and leave them to air out for a day or two with a coffee filter or similar over them to keep out the bugs and dust. Some of the more volatile and unwanted components will evaporate off over this time, and you'll be able to make better cuts and blends.

Now, when the time comes to makes cuts, or do any further blending, you have to remember that the spirit will smell & taste different when watered down. The tails in particular seem to come out with dilution. To get around this, when tasting for blending, dilute a small sample with some very clean water in a clean glass, swirl around and mix well. Aim for a %ABV of between 35-40%. Then have a gentle sniff of each, do it 2-3 times, with all the fractions.

Then try tasting them in very small amounts. Don't swallow the product, spit it out. Seriously!!! Making cuts/blends when drunk usually leads to a substandard product and many regrets. Rinse your mouth with water between tasting different fractions.

First make the main cuts between heads-hearts, and hearts-tails. For the novice stiller, it is probably best to just learn this first, before moving onto the more complicated and tricky art of blending.

If you want to blend some of the other fractions in, start with the cleanest section of hearts, and work up and down the line, adding heads and tails into your blending pot one by one. Only add very small amounts at a time. If in doubt, be conservative and blend a small amount first in a trial glass, then you haven't made an awful mistake if it doesn't taste good. Depending on your tastes and the recipe, you can expect to keep around 30 to 50% of the total volume collected in the blended product, and the rest will be feints.

If you mess up the cuts or blending, for whatever reason, you can just throw it all back into the still, except for the foreshots, then add some water to dilute it a bit (or the backset from the run), and run it all over again. It is a good learning experience.

After you have finished your blend, everything remaining can be treated as feints and reused or stored for an all feints run.

The first time you make cuts, and especially blends, it will probably be quite difficult to pick the often subtle but important differences in smells and tastes, and you may not be happy with the result. But do not be discouraged, this skill improves a lot with practice, and in many ways it is the most important skill of all for a stiller to develop. So be patient, and just keep practicing!
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby stubbydrainer » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:04 am

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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby Frank » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:24 pm

Thanx 5Star (and, again, KIWI)
don't suppose there's a 'similar but different' how to for reflux still cuts that'd be easy to post here? 8-)
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby SBB » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:03 pm

Ive looked around the net a lot for stuff on cuts and Kiwis tutorial is as good as it gets as far as I can see.

Frank wrote:don't suppose there's a 'similar but different' how to for reflux still cuts that'd be easy to post here?

Its pretty much the same thing Frank.....just that the cut points from heads to hearts to tails is probably a bit more abrupt....or thats how it seems to me anyway.
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby MacStill » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:17 pm

Kiwi has put a lot of work into that subject and IMHO if you use the same techniques on a reflux rig you wont go too far wrong ;)

BTW this forum does have his permission to reproduce all his tutorials for posting here, as long as credit goes to him I'll allow it :)
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby SBB » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:59 pm

Could the Stig put this tutorial somewhere permanent and get the graphics back into it. The diagrams that are with the original version are worth a thousand words to a newbie.
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby The Stig » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:43 pm

Give me a link to the original and I will see what I can do :think:
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby The Stig » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:30 pm

Stop looking, found it.
So you want something like this
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby SBB » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:59 pm

To me PDF's are a pain in the arse, but thats just me, The link is here for anyone wishing to view the original.
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=13261
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby MacStill » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:50 pm

SBB wrote:To me PDF's are a pain in the arse, but thats just me


No not just you cobber :whistle:
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby SBB » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:26 pm

Welcome to the PDF Hatred Club member No 2 ;)
I guess they do have their place in the overalll scheme of things.........but what that is??? :crazy:
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby The Stig » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:33 am

So what other format would you like to see it in?
I could easily make it a word doc but not everybody has word
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby R-sole » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:50 am

I think they're looking for someone to do the slog of saving the pics and posting as a post. probably a sticklie in newbs along with all kiwi's other tutes. ;)


Probably fall to the OP to do the slog :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :teasing-neener:
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby SBB » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:41 am

5Star wrote:I think they're looking for someone to do the slog of saving the pics and posting as a post.

Im happy to have a crack at doing it that way if no one else wants too. Might need the Stig to delete the post if I stuff it up thats all.
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby R-sole » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:42 am

just post in this thread and i'll move it for you.
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby SBB » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:34 pm

Jobs done......tried to keep the illustrations to a good size for ease of viewing, Hopefully Ive got it right. 5Star I stuck it in Beginers Questions.....shift it if ya think it needs moving.
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Re: Can Somebody Do A step by Step

Postby Frank » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:41 pm

Thanx SBB..... and Stig and Kiwi (of course)
such peer-reviewed and easily understood information is absolutely :handgestures-thumbup: stuff.
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