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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:19 pm

Lol I think someone is taken my the piss, with the photo upload it's always like that they are fine on my pc and if you click the image they come out the right way. :think:
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:49 pm

Ohh shiny bits thank you 5 star.
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:14 pm

I am borrowing a mates oxy so I can start work in the copper, what should I be buying soft solder or the silver solder. I have read a heap of threads from the workbench with a heap of different opinions. I had access to the oxy for free so thought I would try it instead of buying a butane torch.
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Stemmy » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:28 pm

I used both on my build if I had oxy I would of hard soldered everything but saying that the soft solder was pretty good to work with I built my Deflag with soft solder
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby rumdidlydum » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:35 pm

Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:07 pm

rumdidlydum wrote:Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:


Bunnings sell the 15% rods for $15 each I think is that reasonable?
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:08 pm

Stemmy wrote:I used both on my build if I had oxy I would of hard soldered everything but saying that the soft solder was pretty good to work with I built my Deflag with soft solder


I'll have a crack at the hard solder and see what happens. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Sam. » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:21 pm

rumdidlydum wrote:Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:


Im no coppersmith but from my knowledge I think it would be quite hard to soft solder anything small with oxy, there is too much heat.

Oxy = Hard Solder

Butane torch = Soft solder

MAPP Torch = Hard solder of small items and soft solder of larger

That's the way I see it anyway :-B
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby rumdidlydum » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:48 pm

Just to clarify silver solder is hard solder :O)
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Sam. » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:52 pm

rumdidlydum wrote:Just to clarify silver solder is hard solder :O)


Yes but that can be confusing as well as the soft solder most use says "lead free silver solder".

If it's a long hard stick then it's hard solder.

If it's a soft coil of solder then it's soft solder.

It is quite confusing ~x(
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby rumdidlydum » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:54 pm

:)) :text-lol:
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:35 am

Sam. wrote:
rumdidlydum wrote:Just to clarify silver solder is hard solder :O)


Yes but that can be confusing as well as the soft solder most use says "lead free silver solder".

If it's a long hard stick then it's hard solder.

If it's a soft coil of solder then it's soft solder.

It is quite confusing ~x(


Bloody confusing.
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:38 am

Sam. wrote:
rumdidlydum wrote:Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:


Im no coppersmith but from my knowledge I think it would be quite hard to soft solder anything small with oxy, there is too much heat.

Oxy = Hard Solder

Butane torch = Soft solder

MAPP Torch = Hard solder of small items and soft solder of larger

That's the way I see it anyway :-B


It's seems more the equipment you have access to dictates the method to use from the threads everyone has had success and problems with both.
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:41 am

So I'll get the 15% rods, flux or no flux that is the question. So many people are saying don't use flux on copper to copper then a heap of instructional threads or videos they use flux???
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Zak Griffin » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:07 am

No flux required.
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby rumdidlydum » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:09 am

I use it all the on copper to copper, also find flux handy when doing copper to stainless.

But thats me :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Azza76 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:11 am

If copper is clean no worries but if very dirty use flux, copper to brass flux is required. You just need to make sure that you heat your materials up enough for your solder to work around the joint. Have some practice runs first to get the hang of it :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Ps hard solder a pain in the ass to clean up :angry-banghead:
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Dig Brinker » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:53 am

You'll need a LOT of sticks @ $15 a pop :scared-eek:
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Zak Griffin » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:39 am

Grab some 2% or 5% sticks as well, and you can use the different melting points to your advantage.
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Re: Bumblebee

Postby Knackerbag » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:33 am

I didn't get a chance to grab the solder as I was flat out with the kids sport but did make a start while id did a strip run on my first macwhiskey.
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