Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:05 am

:text-+1: get cracking mate, she looks good
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Pottsy1985 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:33 am

Thanks guys :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Matt73 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:29 pm

I'm adding a length of 1/2 inch copper pipe into my T500 to replace the plastic product out tube. Do I need to treat it before anything runs through it?
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:35 pm

Just soak it in a citric acid bath over night and after every half dozen runs or so
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby bourbonplumbing » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:15 pm

Doing my first run using this method through the t500 copper model with the copper and stainless saddles shes been on for about 1.5 hours and seems to be stuck around 20 C , should i shut the valve off slightly or just continue to wait >? any thoughts thanks.
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:53 pm

Is the column hot? Are you getting any product out?
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby bourbonplumbing » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:02 pm

yea the column was hot ive turned the valve down slightly now and everything seems good ... ive got my 150 ml of foreshots and onto filling my first 200ml heads bottle :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby bourbonplumbing » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:05 pm

Sitting at around 46 C with that drip drip dribble now ... really excited ! it smells 100 times better than the turbo paint striper i made the first time i ran the still using the t500 manual
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Its never enough » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:06 pm

Hello

Doing my first run using this method through the t500 copper model with the copper and stainless saddles shes been on for about 1.5 hours and seems to be stuck around 20 C , should i shut the valve off slightly or just continue to wait >? any thoughts thanks.

Is this with Turbo yeast or with the TPW? still learning how to get rid of my stock of turbo yeast!
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby bourbonplumbing » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:54 pm

Yea was with the TPW bud ... all finished now ,ill wait till tomorrow and try and decide which 200ml bottles to keep , but so far it smells and tastes so much better than the one, turbo wash i did.
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby bourbonplumbing » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:13 am

In the end it all worked out really well :handgestures-thumbupleft: i collected 9 200ml cuts after 150ml foreshots, i really had a lot of trouble deciding which cuts to keep, 2-9 all smelt and tasted the same to me :think: so in the end just kept 3-6,made some irish cream with the still spirits stuff that came with the still, which worked out really well, the missus loves it, and some bourbon with essence which tastes like bacardi but is drinkable mixed and put a litre on oak chips.
I found with the copper T500 with the copper and stainless saddles and no reticulation, i had to turn the water down about 25%, otherwise it would not have heated up past 20 Degrees and with the water flat out, the still was leaking out the top. Apart from that i followed this guide to the T and im really happy with the end result :text-thankyoublue: Doubleuj :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby carcrash » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:33 pm

I have read and re-read these mods and something confuses me. I pour in the copper saddles and then add only 5 ss scrubbers? This suggests the scrubbers and saddles are at the base and not at the top. Is this right or should I add ss wool to hold everything at the top?
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:58 pm

I’m thinking you might be confused as to scrubbers vs, saddles. When i say scrubbers I mean, scourers/ ss wool.
Have you got the version with copper and stainless steel saddles?
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby carcrash » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:03 pm

Yes, copper and saddles. I pulled everything out of it after reading your post to work out what I had. The lower 2/3s was all ss saddles. When I got to to the top it was a combination of copper and ss saddles that came out. I figured the copper bits are meant to be at the top. Hence my confusion.
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:19 pm

Yeap, the copper should be at the top, I’d say when it was packed either they weren’t too careful in what they put in or some of the ss saddles got caught up when you emptied it out.
Just drop the copper saddles in first, holding the tower upside down, then the ss saddles. You only want enough in there that the copper stays up the top when up the right way.
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby carcrash » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:32 pm

When I repacked it I was carful not to let it be overly tight. But I did fill the whole tube thinking the copper had to be at the top. I was given advice that putting SS saddles in the boiler helped reduce heating time and it has. A bag if SS saddles reduced heat up time but 25%.
I'm happy with the quality I am getting but a little disappointed in yield. 1.5L from a 25L litre mash. Am I expecting to much or am I doing something wrong?
Oh, and even following your instructions as best as I understand them, my cooks only take 3 hours. I stop the cook as soon as the vanilla flavour isn't there. I want top shelf yield and happy to get what I think it the best drop without pushing it for quantity. For me, the vanilla flavour is where the best cut is. Am I wrong thinking that? I've read so much here about cuts and blending. I'm in this for the best in flavour. I'd rather pour tails down the toilet where they belong. Perhaps I am foolish in thinking that. I have much to learn.
I should add that I drink my spirits neat. No mix no ice. I've never understood mixing quality spirits with shit like coke and think it's a good drink. If you love spirits, why would you mess it up with crap like coke? Even ice makes a mess of it.
Just saying.
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:29 pm

I think you’re over complicating things, copper saddles up the top( when it’s up the right way).
Boiler enhancers(aka anything inert with good surface area, like a bag of ss saddles) may help in heat up speed but the jury is still out, none the less, a discussion for another thread.
I’ve never heard of selecting cuts on a vanilla taste? Maybe others have, to me the vanillas come out after oaking.
Tails (and heads) can be kept and added to the next run and increase your yeild.
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby hz_350 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:05 pm

So out of a 25l wash how much do you usually keep?
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:01 pm

Only the hearts :teasing-neener:
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Re: Running a T500, the Proper Way - Discussion Thread

Postby Squids » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:31 am

It is still a bit confusing on what is a typical amount of good neutral spirits after cuts to get with the standard tpw T500
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