Great Gin Recipe Discussion

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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby orcy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:33 pm

I prefer gin with overnight mascerated juniper and other botanicals in the boiler just before running. Vapour path gin always seems a bit weak and boring. Sucks to visit a commercial distillery and realise you make better gin at home.
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby coffe addict » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:51 pm

:text-+1: vapour infused is lacking imo unless you drink gin straight then vapour infused wins.
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby The Dark Alchemist » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:47 pm

I have only made 2x batches of Odin's Easy Gin recipe, both have been a super success.

First was almost to the letter, as I added neutral as I made it, along with incremental botanicals. Left it for 2 weeks, pumped it through the T-500 and waited as quick as I could for 3 weeks before trying - nectar! I was surprised as from what I read, the T-500 wasn't favoured as a gin producing unit.

The second batch I was pushed for storage space, so macerated 10x botanicals in 5L of 91% neutral for 2 weeks, before diluting and re-distilling. This batch gave a lot of louching at 42%; I think I didn't sacrfice enough early product off the still, so have been cutting it back with 42% neutral. Drinking great now, 3 weeks later.

Both batches I have just removed the citrus from the boiler before distilling, then let it rip; no infusion at all.

My next batch will be 2L to the letter, and a comparison 2L swapping tangerine for lemon and a further 2L going for a more rooty flavour, than citrus - I have a lot of botanicals to play with.....
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Commune » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:29 am

Will this recipe still work on a reflux still with the column filling removed?
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby the Doctor » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:15 am

The Dark Alchemist wrote:I have only made 2x batches of Odin's Easy Gin recipe, both have been a super success.

First was almost to the letter, as I added neutral as I made it, along with incremental botanicals. Left it for 2 weeks, pumped it through the T-500 and waited as quick as I could for 3 weeks before trying - nectar! I was surprised as from what I read, the T-500 wasn't favoured as a gin producing unit.

The second batch I was pushed for storage space, so macerated 10x botanicals in 5L of 91% neutral for 2 weeks, before diluting and re-distilling. This batch gave a lot of louching at 42%; I think I didn't sacrfice enough early product off the still, so have been cutting it back with 42% neutral. Drinking great now, 3 weeks later.

Both batches I have just removed the citrus from the boiler before distilling, then let it rip; no infusion at all.

My next batch will be 2L to the letter, and a comparison 2L swapping tangerine for lemon and a further 2L going for a more rooty flavour, than citrus - I have a lot of botanicals to play with.....


If you are trying to get a woody earthy-ness to your Gin ...an often ignored botanical is Beetroot make a infusion of beetroot using azeotrope...you don't need much as the flavor is quite strong... add slowly to the gin to taste...the flavour is reminiscent of truffles and adds a deep earthy tone.
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Professor Green » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:19 pm

That is an awesome tip Doc. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

(and before anyone else says it, I do NOT say that to all the boys!)
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Rolls912 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:57 am

Has anyone added cinchona bark to their receipt?
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Yurugaboy » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:10 pm

Rolls912 wrote:Has anyone added cinchona bark to their receipt?


Nope but isn’t that the bark Bitters is made from?
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Rolls912 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:32 pm

Tonic too. Has anyone added it to their recipe?
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby PeterC » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:00 am

Dig Brinker wrote:I usually run similar volume, 25 litres at 30ish %. I only use 1 basket, I don’t change botanicals. BUT I normally run off close to 2 litres (heads and some neutral, after fores) before I add the basket. Gives great flavour into tails and usually get around 4.5 ish litres of 92% gin. Used cassia bark in my last gin as opposed to cinnamon, was definitely noticeable going into tails and has given this batch a less citrus tang with a more woody (for want of a better term) ending.
If you keep changing botanicals you get the juniper & citrus more pronounced, but if you don’t leave it in long enough you will miss out on the heavier herbs at the end.
Have your other runs been ok or not enough flavour?

Hi, I am looking to do this run strategy with the same volume and %abv as above with one basket and collecting cuts (for later blending) down to 30%abv. The amount of alcohol is about double what the original recipe of 25L TPW was, so I assume you double the amount of botanicals the recipe states? I have read the whole thread and it is not clear to me what the boiler fill should be for the amount of botanicals loaded. Most talk about final volume they collected or their initial ferment quantities. There is mention of 25 - 35 grams of botanicals per litre of finished product rule (at 45%abv recommended) The recipe does not state the weights of many of the ingredients. For the original recipe, with 50g of juniper and assuming all the other ingredients are another 50g then a double amount would be 200g which is about 6- 8L litres of final product at 45%abv. according to the above rule.

So a boiler charge of 25L at 30% is about 8L at 92%. Collect 2L as heads then 4.5L at 92% plus the remainder down to 30% that's maybe another 2 litres. This, after blending back some tails is going to be about 10L of final product. A bit more than the above rule but going deeper into tails maybe.

So my question is am I correct and I can use the double quantity of botanicals the recipe states for this boiler fill? Sorry about my lack of understanding but I just need the right information from those that know Gin and this recipe better than me.
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby MaKa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:30 am

The answer is maybe.... Sometimes the botanicals don't necessarily scale in a linear fashion. What you have is a starting point. After this batch note any changes in flavour you want and change it for the next run
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Rolls912 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:17 pm

Best juniper berries in available in Oz?
Now that I feel like I’m getting somewhere with my process, I’m turning my attention to the receipt & quality of produce.
I’m looking for super plump JB’s. So far, I have found that Gewürzhaus Herb & Spice Merchants sell the best berries but they are ridiculously expensive. I’m looking to buy 5kgs at a time / $250 per kilo. Any other suggestions?
Another question - how long do folks store them for?
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby the Doctor » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:41 am

Try Austral herbs in Kentucky N.S.W ( 02 6778 7357) they have supplied us for years, As for storage we go through it quickly but I have never had a problem with storage, a good airtight container or if you have it a vacuum sealer will prevent oxidation and slow ageing.
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Rolls912 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:11 pm

Cucumber is one of my favourite garnishes. Does anyone add fresh cucumber in their gin basket?
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Professor Green » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:27 pm

Cucumber has no business being anywhere near a good gin! :puke-huge:
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Rolls912 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:13 am

Professor Green wrote:Cucumber has no business being anywhere near a good gin! :puke-huge:

Try it with animus green or even four pillars. Delicious.
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Chocko6969 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:42 pm

Quick question, I've had some Juniper berries given to me but they're not dried, they are vacuum packed and still soft. Would these be OK to use (ground with other ingredients) or should I source some dried for the basket and use these softer ones in the boiler maybe, just for shits and giggles?

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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:52 pm

I bought fresh ground them and got gin... :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Chocko6969 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:57 pm

bluc wrote:I bought fresh ground them and got gin... :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Thanks mate, I thought as much but being new to the drop I had to ask.

Cheers,

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Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:17 pm

I put everything in a coffee grinder and blitzed it
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