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TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:15 pm
by Popcorn Jack
Neutral  comparsiment

All washes fermented for 3 weeks and cleared for another
200 ml fore-shots were taken each cook
All were cooked in a turbo still 500 @ temps 55c-57c

Tpw , cost give or take $7.50

5kg surgar
200 grm tp
1/4 tsp citric acid
Pinch Epsom salts
80 gm bakers yeast
Make to 25 l water at 30*

OG 1.072
Fg .970

Cleared with 2 tsp of gelatin in 200 ml of water

Yield 200 ml for shots and 2.6@94%



Classic turbo yeast  , cost $37

7kg sugar
Turbo carbon
Turbo clear

OG 1.116 @ 30
Fg. .980

yield 200 ml forshot and 3.5 liters neutral@94%

Ran through a carbon filter. 


Triple distiled turbo yeast. 31.8.12 , cost $38
Turbo carbon
Turbo clear
6 kg sugar
21 l water

OG 1.088@27.5c
Fg .990

Yield 200 ml for shots and 3.2 l @ 94%

Carbon filtered


Will post smells and tastes once all have had a chance to age/ settle


Popcorn jack

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:04 pm
by Popcorn Jack
Can tell you that the TPW has a less fume smell than the turbos.
Need to learn how to do cuts.
Anyone with a t500 or even a reflux still do cuts?

Cheers pj

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:50 pm
by Kimbo
Popcorn Jack wrote:Can tell you that the TPW has a less fume smell than the turbos.
Need to learn how to do cuts.
Anyone with a t500 or even a reflux still do cuts?

Cheers pj

Yes, always do cuts mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:17 pm
by NotBenStiller
Popcorn Jack wrote:Can tell you that the TPW has a less fume smell than the turbos.
Yes, we knew that :teasing-neener:

Anyone with a t500 or even a reflux still do cuts?
Yes we do that :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:42 pm
by crow
So basically your saying is you get an extra ltr for 5.5 times the cost ok but if that money was spent just on the TPW you would get 14.3 ltrs :think: 3.5 verses 14.3 and no hrs of fun filtering.... I think we have a winner here folks :teasing-tease:

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:19 pm
by dillsandwitch
and not to mention the inky smell you get from the turbo while its fermenting...

TPW all the way. Have so far done 4 tpw and have been very happy with the results. I have been using 6kg of sugar cause its easier (dont have to measure or buy 1kg bags) and have been getting decent results. got 2.6 (was on 5kg), 2.9, 3 and 3.2 from them. still learning the cuts but i think i am getting better at it

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:21 pm
by Kimbo
croweater wrote:So basically your saying is you get an extra ltr for 5.5 times the cost ok but if that money was spent just on the TPW you would get 14.3 ltrs :think: 3.5 verses 14.3 and no hrs of fun filtering.... I think we have a winner here folks :teasing-tease:

:text-+1: :text-imwithstupid:

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:37 am
by Popcorn Jack
I agree TPW is the way to go. 2 more batches on the go. The guy at the HBS asked me if I needed yeast the other day and didn't have the heart to tell him I won't be buying them again.

Beside taking out my first 200 ml that's it for my cuts. Last time I tried taking cuts I gave myself a headache sniffing.
I'll give it a go again. I figure once you keep putting you heads and tails back in your next cook they become more concentrated??

PJ

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:52 pm
by crow
yes if you keep doing it over a long period it could become a problem. at first they will just compress better but eventually you will have to much , i've come to the conclusion they it pays to do a faints run every now and the and just ditch the faints from that run

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:53 pm
by MacStill
croweater wrote:yes if you keep doing it over a long period it could become a problem. at first they will just compress better but eventually you will have to much , i've come to the conclusion they it pays to do a faints run every now and the and just ditch the faints from that run


:text-imwithstupid:

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:07 pm
by Kimbo
croweater wrote:yes if you keep doing it over a long period it could become a problem. at first they will just compress better but eventually you will have to much , i've come to the conclusion they it pays to do a faints run every now and the and just ditch the faints from that run

That's what i do :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:19 pm
by Popcorn Jack
Next run is going to be the second attempt at cuts.
Thanks fellas.

PJ

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:46 pm
by The Stig
Popcorn Jack wrote:Tpw , cost give or take $7.50

Classic turbo yeast  , cost $37

Triple distiled turbo yeast. 31.8.12 , cost $38

I dont want to rain on anybodys parade but I would like to question your costings.
What is Turbo Clear and Turbo Carbon cost ? $5 or $6 each ?, I fail to see how you got to $38 and $39

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:29 pm
by NotBenStiller
Turbo clear and turbo carbon $10-11
turbo yeast $10-12
8kg sugar/dextrose $12-16

turbo costings add up to around mid $30's ...
seems legit to me (having only ever done one turbo wash that came in a "starter pack", so i've never actually bought any individually)

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:44 pm
by The Stig
http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/default.asp?CID=116
Turbo Clear $5.60
Still Spirits - Turbo Express $8.50

http://www.brewcraftsa.com.au/showProduct/50163
Still Spirits TURBO CARBON (liquid carbon) $3.95
Total $18.05 + $6 for sugar = $24.05

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:29 pm
by Popcorn Jack
The Stig wrote:http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/default.asp?CID=116
Turbo Clear $5.60
Still Spirits - Turbo Express $8.50

http://www.brewcraftsa.com.au/showProduct/50163
Still Spirits TURBO CARBON (liquid carbon) $3.95
Total $18.05 + $6 for sugar = $24.05


Is there shipping with that?
Also I added the cost of the carbon filter that is recommended with these washes..

Thanks
PJ

TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:36 pm
by Sam.
The Stig wrote:
Popcorn Jack wrote:Tpw , cost give or take $7.50

Classic turbo yeast , cost $37

Triple distiled turbo yeast. 31.8.12 , cost $38

I dont want to rain on anybodys parade but I would like to question your costings.
What is Turbo Clear and Turbo Carbon cost ? $5 or $6 each ?, I fail to see how you got to $38 and $39

not sure on exact prices but when I was using all the turbo gear and carbon and using the whisky profile kit I worked out it was costing about $8 a bottle to end product.

Reckon I'm doing it cheaper now!

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:50 pm
by Popcorn Jack
That sounds right. You were talking liter bottles though?

PJ

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:09 pm
by Sam.
Popcorn Jack wrote:That sounds right. You were talking liter bottles though?

PJ


Nope, 750ml, still better than $40 I guess

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:20 pm
by Popcorn Jack
What's your personal opinion on the profile kit?
Has me curious but not sure to spend the dough

PJ