Mash not required

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Re: Mash not required

Postby Teddysad » Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:06 am

A couple of mashes underway. Done with hot water then cooled. One with Angel, the other is a different brand


https://youtu.be/PRixR_jlb7s


https://youtu.be/pgeONapfick
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Wellsy » Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:35 am

Thanks for sharing your experiences teddy
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Re: Mash not required

Postby clintonb » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:29 am

bluc wrote: Have only done the 70/20/10 ratio thinking it maybe a bit heavy on the rye it has a strong flavour..


Hey @Bluc,

Amateur question based on your 15kg to 40l ratio. Is this a percentage of total weight ie 10.5 kg corn, 3 kg Barley and 1.5 kg Rye..... Or is it like a traditional mash and based on available sugars as a percentage :think:

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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:29 am

Weight of grain mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Wellsy » Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:08 pm

Teddysad wrote:A couple of mashes underway. Done with hot water then cooled. One with Angel, the other is a different brand


https://youtu.be/PRixR_jlb7s


https://youtu.be/pgeONapfick



Gidday Teddy
How did the comparison go mate, were the results similar or do one yeast seem to do better than the other
Thanks
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Teddysad » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:29 am

Actually the non Angel one was faster by several days.
Other than that no difference
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Wellsy » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:55 am

Will be interesting to see if there is any noticeable flavour over time
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Re: Mash not required

Postby howard » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:24 pm

after my efforts with yesterdays corn based whiskey i decided to test this method.
KISS.
3 kg distillers malt milled
3 x 750gm bags of woolies macro 5-grain porridge (oats,triticale,barley,rye & brown rice, all grains rolled)
1 x 750gm bag of rolled oats (because woolies only had 3 x bags of 5-grain)

22L of filterd water heated up to 35C in brewzilla (15 mins)
water put into fermenter, PH adjusted from 7.3 to 5.3 with citric acid)
all the grains thrown in, stirred well.
35gms of yellow angel hydrated and added.
no nutrients added.
i hop bag with oyster shells added, to buffer any PH crashes.
into the fermenter fridge set at 30C
can't get any simpler, probably less than 1 hour.
fingers crossed
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Wellsy » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:16 pm

Hey guys apologies if you have worked this out already but I have always been impatient and only ever let my wash settle out overnight. This batch I let settle for. Couple of days and it has made a huge difference to the taste straight of the still. Previously I always had a slight off taste that cleared over time. Today however I could and have drunken it straight from the cuts jars. Give an extra days settling to your process and see if it makes a difference
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:06 pm

Ask coffee addict about the off taste of scorched corn ay :shifty:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Professor Green » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:12 pm

Wellsy wrote:Hey guys apologies if you have worked this out already but I have always been impatient and only ever let my wash settle out overnight. This batch I let settle for. Couple of days and it has made a huge difference to the taste straight of the still. Previously I always had a slight off taste that cleared over time. Today however I could and have drunken it straight from the cuts jars. Give an extra days settling to your process and see if it makes a difference


This hobby will definitely reward those with patience.

Let your wash settle, run your still slow, let your cuts air and let your spirits age.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:41 pm

@bluc are you still using this for AG or have you moved back to traditional mashing ?

Does the 15kg grain plus 40L water leave much head space in a 60L fermenter ? Assuming the displacement of the grain would see the level got to 55L.

Are you still adding the 2nd yeast in with the angel yeast ?

Are you still using the wringer (&  biab??) to squeeze or have you got a better method now ?
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:02 pm

Yep still using it and loving it. Souring the mash fixed any problem with flavour

I am using a biab and my hands to squeeze. I am still contemplating using steam or buying a shop press from supacheap
. The bucket I had sucked.

Your about right with volume. I had enough headroom 60l fermenter never ran over.

Didnt notice difference with second yeast.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:13 pm

bluc wrote:Yep still using it and loving it. Souring the mash fixed any problem with flavour

I am using a biab and my hands to squeeze. I am still contemplating using steam or buying a shop press from supacheap
. The bucket I had sucked.

Your about right with volume. I had enough headroom 60l fermenter never ran over.

Didnt notice difference with second yeast.


Awesome, i stumbled upon a pack yesterday locally so jumped on it, a little exxy but dont have to wait 6months for it to turn up.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:45 am

Sorry for the noob question but i have never done an AG before.

Do you scoop the grain off the yeast cake and squeeze (and use straight away) or tip the lot in and squeeze then let the yeast settle a day or 2 for racking ?

I know the answer will be whatever suits me but i am looking for members actual preferred method and hopefully the reason.

i put my 1st down yesterday and its going crazy. Super excited.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:38 pm

I let it settle 3-4days before running.
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