Mash not required

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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:05 pm

They are pretty noisy too..
But blast through whole corn..
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Teddysad » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 am

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I use the 2 row malt muncher with a corded drill fitted.

Only difficulty is with whole I cracked corn.
For this I buy it cracked ( they charge $2.00 extra for. 25 kg bag.)
Then I put the cracked corn through the malt muncher to get the finer grind I want.
Everything else including raw wheat etc the mill sails through it.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:10 am

Yea i did same up till last year :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:10 pm

RC Al wrote:For the win :music-deathmetal: :happy-partydance:

But yeah a cheapy corona mill plus a power drill gets you there


Do you remember the price ?
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Re: Mash not required

Postby RC Al » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:01 am

They are around the 270-280 shipped currently

Nothing wrong with the smaller set up, just depends how often you want to do corn, the 10c a kg extra for cracked isnt really a killer at the end of the day, one small thing that comes to mind though is that the avigrain whole corn that im getting seems very much fresher than any cracked corn ive seen.

I let mine run reasonably slow and can do stuff while it munches, on my huge list of projects is to try a bigger hopper and a set up so that it feeds straight into the top of the fermenter while mashing

It only has to do 2.8 tons of corn to pay for itself :think: :)) hopefully im young enough to pull that one off, might take a while though :cool:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:23 pm

bluc wrote:I keep about 3.3l @65% from 15kg. I find i need to run slower then my sugarhead or tails pushs through early.


Ok the verdict. I ended up with 8.8L @65% from 60kg of grain. Down a bit on the 13.2L you get. 33% loss.

Flavour was good, i know its got a tonne of corn but i was surprised how much the corn flavour actually comes over.

RC Al wrote:They are around the 270-280 shipped currently

Nothing wrong with the smaller set up, just depends how often you want to do corn, the 10c a kg extra for cracked isnt really a killer at the end of the day, one small thing that comes to mind though is that the avigrain whole corn that im getting seems very much fresher than any cracked corn ive seen.

I let mine run reasonably slow and can do stuff while it munches, on my huge list of projects is to try a bigger hopper and a set up so that it feeds straight into the top of the fermenter while mashing

It only has to do 2.8 tons of corn to pay for itself :think: :)) hopefully im young enough to pull that one off, might take a while though :cool:


I borrowed a mates 2 roller mill to start my sweet feed mash but i also picked up the same mill as you $220 shipped syd to bris on fleabay. Hasn't arrived yet.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:50 am

I stir twice day every day and let sit for 3 weeks. Others have success fermenting 7-10 days with similar volume. I am not sure if they are heating though..
I think the agitation is what helps.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:03 am

Sorry i have confused myself I am doing 1.5 batchs now. 22.5kg grain 60l water. From this I keep 3.3l @65.

I wanted to do double batchs but it would not fit in fermenter.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby The Stig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:28 am

So I got me a pack of Angel Yeast from enzymeking.com.au Thanks King
My first thing will be a wheat Vodka, how much wheat will I need to do a 50L wash ?
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:07 pm

The Stig wrote:So I got me a pack of Angel Yeast from enzymeking.com.au Thanks King
My first thing will be a wheat Vodka, how much wheat will I need to do a 50L wash ?


Bluc does 15kg grain in a 50L mash and that's good enough for me too.

10kg is more workable but 15kg gives a better yield.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby The Stig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:17 pm

Thats going to take up a heap of room in the fermeneter.
And at $4/kg its rather expensive
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Bob9863 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:23 pm

I operate off of the ratio of 5kg of grain to 20lt of water, that's always given me a good ratio of flavour to output.
When I add more grain then that it's always sticky rice for more alcohol with no change in flavour, if you want a good high yield vodka with a hint of sweetness then use sticky rice instead of wheat, angel yeast is made to work with sticky rice so it gives you the highest yield and a very smooth flavour.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:45 pm

The Stig wrote:Thats going to take up a heap of room in the fermeneter.
And at $4/kg its rather expensive


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Re: Mash not required

Postby The Stig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:27 pm

Is there any reason we can’t just go to a flour mill and buy whole grain flours ?
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:41 pm

You certainly could though i wouldn't go any smaller than meal, you would need to leave it to really settle out before syphoning, would be waiting forever and you wouldnt be able to squeeze using biab
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Re: Mash not required

Postby chipboy » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:11 pm

Simply mash some wheetbix? Easy, 30 min in the very hot water, 70 plus. Cool, add the magic yeast and watch! 6 bricks made my 60 litre much like what you want it to be, wheat as well.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby The Stig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:13 pm

The idea is to get away from adding sugar and that can’t be done with weet-bix or can it
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Re: Mash not required

Postby chipboy » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:15 pm

It sure can be, let me introduce you to next weekend? Let your head go, 50 gm and dirty sugar but it comes out very well. Mash a box or two and try it with just water and yeast?
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Re: Mash not required

Postby BigRig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:32 pm

The Stig wrote:So I got me a pack of Angel Yeast from enzymeking.com.au Thanks King
My first thing will be a wheat Vodka, how much wheat will I need to do a 50L wash ?

Is enzyme king a member here ?
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Re: Mash not required

Postby The Stig » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:50 pm

enzyme king Is not a member here.
But , he appreciates buying direct from his store rather than via eBay cos he saves on fees
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