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Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:17 pm
by Teddysad
Mashes have slowed down a little . I am being very patient on these to give maximum opportunity.
I already know they won’t give my TFFV a fright on the speed stakes.

I will post as there is a change or I do something

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:10 am
by Br00ksy
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eagerly awaiting results
Probably will buy some if it turns out good! :D

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:42 pm
by dans.brew
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Good stuff teddysad!

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:16 am
by Teddysad
Both washes , barley and wheat are busy out in the sunlight at present Basking in temps of 28 to 30C.
Sill a slow bubble so still working.

Chucked a couple of TFFV alongside to compare
They were done in three and a half days!!

Totally different product however

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:34 am
by EziTasting
Teddysad wrote:Chucked a couple of TFFV alongside to compare
They were done in three and a half days!!

Totally different product however


Did the TFFV finish faster or just different? Be interesting to see how it’s affected the resulting yield... love your work! :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:12 pm
by The Stig
Teddysad wrote:Chucked a couple of TFFV alongside to compare
They were done in three and a half days!!


I take it these were standard wash's using bakers yeast and sugar, hence the "different product" line.
I may be totally wrong????

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:07 pm
by Teddysad
Dead correct Bog standard to my recipe Sugar Bran Bakers yeast.
The warm temps really helped.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:19 pm
by Teddysad
Latest trial underway.

Fortunately I have a chinese speaking home stay so used him to translate some of the chinese instructions. We perceived a reference to heating/cooking the grains.

Put together 2 corn mashes

1st was standard method for the yeast: 5kg crushed corn, water at room temp, 45g yeast and 1/2 tsp DAP.

For the other I heated water to 88C, added 5kg crushed corn, held it at temp for an hour (stirring several times) then added it all into fermenter to cool.

Next morning at room temp, added the 45g yeast and DAP.

Both sitting at about 27 litres total volume

The diifference (if any) will be interesting

I also plan to grab some long grain rice tomorrow to do the same trial with that (wont be as high on the temps however).

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:28 pm
by Teddysad
cold water only after 12 hrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKrEf-7iecI it is certainly alive

one difference between two mashes is the water has a lot more yellow starch in it after the cook in mash 2

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:40 pm
by bluc
Looking forward to seeing the volume of each :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:23 am
by timboss
Hi Guys

Apologies if I've missed anything here, but there seems to be a big gap on the topic of efficiency. I understand you can't get an OG but can we get an FG and work out the conversion efficiency according to your grain bill?

I think I was cracking about 80ish% with Sebstar/Sebamyl and corn ground to a flour so if it gets anywhere near that this is very exciting. Breaks down the complexity and effort barrier into AG.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:21 pm
by Teddysad
timboss wrote:Hi Guys

Apologies if I've missed anything here, but there seems to be a big gap on the topic of efficiency. I understand you can't get an OG but can we get an FG and work out the conversion efficiency according to your grain bill?

I think I was cracking about 80ish% with Sebstar/Sebamyl and corn ground to a flour so if it gets anywhere near that this is very exciting. Breaks down the complexity and effort barrier into AG.


Once the full ferments have finished I will try to oblige I have the corn ones underway

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:31 am
by wynnum1
What would happen if used purchased flour would it break down.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:55 pm
by Teddysad
Funny you should ask I started a small trial of that this afternoon Just plain white flour

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:58 pm
by Teddysad
Just a quick video of the activity uncooked corn + Angel yeast
https://youtu.be/eRpsoHSCDyE

Starch tests proving great

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:09 pm
by bluc
wynnum1 wrote:What would happen if used purchased flour would it break down.


Teddysad wrote:Funny you should ask I started a small trial of that this afternoon Just plain white flour


Would be mighty handy for vodka. Seperating it so it didnt burn may be a pain though..

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:15 pm
by The Stig
Run it through cheese cloth ??

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:18 pm
by bluc
Yea just had same thought

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:22 pm
by Andrew
I spoke to customs today and they think it shouldn’t be an issue importing but they want a complete ingredient list before committing so I got the list and shot it back to customs and I’m just waiting now

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:48 pm
by bluc
Sweet