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Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:18 am
by gad
Yesterday I tried www.5stardistilling.com.au who had none. Then tried two sellers on Ebay who had none (ads were gone this morning). I then tried a third on Ebay but thought I'd ask about delivery before ordering. Their reply was:

"yes, the delivery time is VERY longer time due to COVID-19 now, it need at least 60-90 days , in fact, all seller in eBay the same now.

Because of many countries have reduced flights. International mail service is very difficult. Our package cannot arrive on time. There may be delays with previous packages, please don't worry. The parcel will arrived, just later than usual."

Thinking I might have to give this a miss for now, then thinking, when 3 months have gone by I'll be kicking myself for not ordering any so I took another look at www.5stardistilling.com.au this morning. They now have it.
Ordered a pack with an ETA of 24 - 49 days & the price was better than any on Ebay.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:48 am
by Beerswimmer
Teddysad wrote:
Lesgold wrote:Hi folks,
Might be slightly off topic but while I’m waiting for yeast to arrive, thought I’d better get myself a grain mill. Any that you would recommend?I would be after something that would be able to handle corn as well as other grains. I buy cracked corn for UJ and have noticed that there is no real difference in price between whole and cracked grain (I assume the cracked grain would be easier on the mill) Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheers

Les

I do the same. Makes the milling faster. 2 roller driven by a drill works for me


2 roller with a drill here too. If it breaks it was only $50. If I had the $$ I'd get a hammermill from China.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:53 pm
by bluc
Yea same mill here.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:52 pm
by mattyb
gad wrote:Yesterday I tried 'unwelcome advertiser' who had none. Then tried two sellers on Ebay who had none (ads were gone this morning). I then tried a third on Ebay but thought I'd ask about delivery before ordering. Their reply was:

"yes, the delivery time is VERY longer time due to COVID-19 now, it need at least 60-90 days , in fact, all seller in eBay the same now.

Because of many countries have reduced flights. International mail service is very difficult. Our package cannot arrive on time. There may be delays with previous packages, please don't worry. The parcel will arrived, just later than usual."

Thinking I might have to give this a miss for now, then thinking, when 3 months have gone by I'll be kicking myself for not ordering any so I took another look at 'unwelcome advertiser' this morning. They now have it.
Ordered a pack with an ETA of 24 - 49 days & the price was better than any on Ebay.



I ordered some on Ebay. From Sydney. only one and a half week wwait

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:16 pm
by RC Al
How are you guys going with the roller mills on small unmalted grains? went over to a mates place who has one, even on min size it wouldnt touch feed grade oats or rolled barley, the malted rye wasnt too fantastic to feed in and then still needed to go through my hand grinder. it wasnt rated to do corn so we didnt even try it...
Ended up doing it all by hand....

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:23 pm
by Lesgold
Thanks for the replies guys. I ordered my yeast when I still had a couple of black hairs on my head. I think I’ll be totally grey or bald before it arrives.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:52 pm
by bluc
I do whole wheat barley cracked corn with my twin roller. Make sure gap is set right if its not grabbing grinding auto feeding.. done bags and a drum of malt

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:07 pm
by dans.brew
bluc wrote:I do whole wheat barley cracked corn with my twin roller. Make sure gap is set right if its not grabbing grinding auto feeding.. done bags and a drum of malt

:text-+1:
You can buy malt in drums?

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:00 pm
by gad
mattyb wrote:
I ordered some on Ebay. From Sydney. only one and a half week wwait


I saw that. Are you sure you are getting the right yeast ?

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:39 am
by PeterC
RC Al wrote:How are you guys going with the roller mills on small unmalted grains? went over to a mates place who has one, even on min size it wouldnt touch feed grade oats or rolled barley, the malted rye wasnt too fantastic to feed in and then still needed to go through my hand grinder. it wasnt rated to do corn so we didnt even try it...
Ended up doing it all by hand....

My wife had an old grister for making flour that her parents had which has conical stones in it. It came from France. I was able to open it up to grist grains much more coarse than flour. This photo is when I was gristing some flaked maize. Good for hard grains like corn, wheat and unmalted barley. Smashes malt barley and separates the husk but I can tip it back in. Still playing with it. I notice there is a new grister called a Maltzilla just come out.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:04 am
by Beerswimmer
Filled my 20L barrel to the rim with Christmas Caramel bourbon w/oats @57.5% today. The white reminds me of oatmeal creampie cookies! It'll be in the barrel until December 2021.

I started milling grains for the next round of Angel yeast bourbon I'm making: Sundae Chocolate bourbon. 70% corn, 20% caramel 60l malt, 5% pale chocolate malt. I plan on leaving it in the barrel until 2022.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:27 am
by mattyb
gad wrote:
mattyb wrote:
I ordered some on Ebay. From Sydney. only one and a half week wwait


I saw that. Are you sure you are getting the right yeast ?


It says angel yeast. I presume there is only one

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:23 am
by Teddysad
mattyb wrote:
gad wrote:
mattyb wrote:
I ordered some on Ebay. From Sydney. only one and a half week wwait


I saw that. Are you sure you are getting the right yeast ?


It says angel yeast. I presume there is only one

No wrong. Angel are a huge operation and produce dozens of different yeasts including a lot sold under different brands. Their most common range is bakers IDY which is in a white and red pack. The stuff we use for liquor is in a silver pack with the red Angel logo and most importantly the
yellow square at about 9 o’clock on the front.
However that white pack bakers IDY is perfect for TFFV.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:26 am
by gad
mattyb wrote:It says angel yeast. I presume there is only one


While I think the one you are looking at, looks the same, it has "Instant Dry Yeast" on the front of the pack:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-x-PREMIUM-Natural-Instant-Dry-Yeast-Angel-500g-Baking-Dry-Yeast-Bread-Yeast/402258493156?hash=item5da8797ee4:g:F9QAAOSw4ytezjMv&frcectupt=true
What you want is this one with "Starter of Liquor-making" on the front:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/500g-Active-Dry-Yeast-for-Alcohol-Fermentation-White-Wine-Brewing-with-sacchar/282689921414?epid=28006985089&hash=item41d1a1e186:g:kOEAAOSwq~tZOU8Q

Cheers

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:46 am
by bluc
dans.brew wrote:
bluc wrote:I do whole wheat barley cracked corn with my twin roller. Make sure gap is set right if its not grabbing grinding auto feeding.. done bags and a drum of malt

:text-+1:
You can buy malt in drums?

Got it from a mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:42 pm
by scythe
What is so important about the yellow square?

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:45 pm
by mattyb
gad wrote:
mattyb wrote:It says angel yeast. I presume there is only one


While I think the one you are looking at, looks the same, it has "Instant Dry Yeast" on the front of the pack:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-x-PREMIUM-Natural-Instant-Dry-Yeast-Angel-500g-Baking-Dry-Yeast-Bread-Yeast/402258493156?hash=item5da8797ee4:g:F9QAAOSw4ytezjMv&frcectupt=true
What you want is this one with "Starter of Liquor-making" on the front:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/500g-Active-Dry-Yeast-for-Alcohol-Fermentation-White-Wine-Brewing-with-sacchar/282689921414?epid=28006985089&hash=item41d1a1e186:g:kOEAAOSwq~tZOU8Q

Cheers



Yep i bought the wrong one. Got the correct one now. Will be here by the end of the year :-) Wont go to waste though

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:46 pm
by bluc
Lots different "angel yeasts" if you dont get right one it wont convert the grain then ferment.
They make a standard bakers among others..

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:50 am
by Beerswimmer
Pitched yeast today on the first 2 of four ferments, 2 hours later it's rolling!

ETA: This time I didn't add boiling water to the grains to kill the bacteria, I'll compare the bacterial blooms to the last ones where I did.

Re: Mash not required

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:26 am
by bluc
Beerswimmer did you notice any volume difference when adding boiling water at the start?