Page 1 of 2

sugar wash

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:39 pm
by jman69
Hi there, just wondering if neutral spirit that was made with ordinary white sugar, and dos'nt taste as good as it could, could be re distilled to improve the taste? or is there another way to improve it?? It is drinkable at the moment but i am hoping it could be better.Normaly i use a 8 kg.production pack to brew my spirit which tastes fairly reasonable.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:53 pm
by The Stig
Ditch the turbos and move on to something better and learn cuts

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:13 pm
by BradM
Yep, can always re-distill. Just make sure you water it back down <40% and that your elements don't run dry.

You can put some bicarb of soda or sodium carbonate in the spirit for a while before re-distilling it.
http://aussiedistiller.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2792&sid=517cec50ce3600a28a86820156c59718
I haven't done this yet - I'm sure someone with more experience will pipe up.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:19 am
by southern45
Yes, but if it was originally a turbo yeast wash I wouldn't bother. Just use the product for cleaning or killing weeds. Sugar is cheap. Put down a new wash of TPW or WBAB (search the forum for recipes) and go from there.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:59 pm
by jman69
Thanks for all the replys fellas. think i'll try to re distill and see what happens?

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:20 pm
by jman69
Stig , i'm only new to this hobby so will be sticking to my turbo still for now. Later on, when i'm ready and more confident i will start to experiment with other ways. All my other distilations have been pretty reasonable so far. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:48 pm
by hgwells
jman69 wrote:Stig , i'm only new to this hobby so will be sticking to my turbo still for now. Later on, when i'm ready and more confident i will start to experiment with other ways. All my other distilations have been pretty reasonable so far. :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Think you have the wrong end of the stick, don’t think that the stig (or anyone else on this forum) would have a go at you for having a turbo still, what IS being suggested that if you are using turbo wash, turbo yeast, turbo sugar (which all make your washes look like tar and taste like crap)or turbo clear, to go and investigate other options I.e. TPW or one of the other sugar washes as you will find that you will end up with a much better smelling and tasting wash and a far better end product. No matter what still you are using.

:-D

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:21 pm
by RuddyCrazy
hgwells wrote:
jman69 wrote:Stig , i'm only new to this hobby so will be sticking to my turbo still for now. Later on, when i'm ready and more confident i will start to experiment with other ways. All my other distilations have been pretty reasonable so far. :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Think you have the wrong end of the stick, don’t think that the stig (or anyone else on this forum) would have a go at you for having a turbo still, what IS being suggested that if you are using turbo wash, turbo yeast, turbo sugar (which all make your washes look like tar and taste like crap)or turbo clear, to go and investigate other options I.e. TPW or one of the other sugar washes as you will find that you will end up with a much better smelling and tasting wash and a far better end product. No matter what still you are using.

:-D


:text-+1:

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:00 pm
by Professor Green
You can certainly re-distill it and make good cuts to improve it but as already been suggested, a turbo yeast based wash is probably not the best place to start for clean neutral.

I agree, Stig was definitely suggesting ditching the turbo wash in favour of something from the tried and proven section, not telling you to ditch your current still. I can recommend either WBAB or TPW for a nice clean neutral. WBAB is my go to for neutrals BTW. These washes will produce a wash with a lower ABV than the turbos so will obviously have a smaller yield but it will be of far better quality due to less chemical additives and unstressed yeast. It's worth following the rule of thumb for sugar too; no more than 1 kg sugar per 5 litres of wash to keep your yeast happy. Happy yeast = a clean wash = a clean result (if you run your still right and do good cuts).

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Prof. Green.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:11 pm
by Wellsy
I agree with these guys mate, Stig is not saying replace the still mate, he is definitely saying replace the wash you put into it. Try the wheat bix all bran wash mate it mates a great neutral.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:44 am
by Redline
so when u do s TPW and run it in a t500 does it run the same or do you still need to do ur cuts and mess around with it?

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:50 am
by hgwells
Redline wrote:so when u do s TPW and run it in a t500 does it run the same or do you still need to do ur cuts and mess around with it?



You should always do cuts (even with turbo wash). Throw the manual that came out with the T500 and read the “how to run a T500 properly” thread, believe me once you get the hang of it you will never go back and won’t believe that you were drinking the crap you are currently making (no offence :-D )

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:05 am
by bluc
:text-+1:

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:10 pm
by jman69
Oh, i get it now. that makes a lot more sense. Sorry Stig, i'll start looking into some different washes and see how we go.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:10 pm
by Wellsy
Nice work jman
Most here only want to help mate, but as a newbie like me there is so much to learn and absorb

Have a couple of reads of the newbie section mate heaps of great tips in there.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:41 pm
by jman69
Thanks welly, I new there would be a wealth of information here, thats why i joined and i'll certainly have a read. Also after work today i went and bought the ingrediants for my first t.p.w. so we'll see how that goes. :dance:

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:41 pm
by Wellsy
The recipes and variations are never ending mate.

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:04 am
by Redline
hgwells wrote:
Redline wrote:so when u do s TPW and run it in a t500 does it run the same or do you still need to do ur cuts and mess around with it?



You should always do cuts (even with turbo wash). Throw the manual that came out with the T500 and read the “how to run a T500 properly” thread, believe me once you get the hang of it you will never go back and won’t believe that you were drinking the crap you are currently making (no offence :-D )


the problem I am having guys is this,

I love booze, mainly rum, bundy OP on the rocks generally, gueensland gold rum in my t500 turbo spirit is tasting better than bundy IMO

My nose smelling parts were mostly removed or damaged when i had surgery years ago so I cant smell buggerall.

I cant smell most things so I am a bit buggered how I am meant to 'smell' the cuts to pick the best ones???

or is it tasting them also?

should I just make a TPW and run it and go from there or will I be a black sheep amongst the purists on here ^:)^

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:18 am
by The Stig
Taste is just as important if not more so than smell.
Your just going to get pissed while making your cuts :laughing-rolling:

Re: sugar wash

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:37 am
by RC Al
Give it a go mate, as said you should be making cuts reguardless of the wash

You may be able to get you alcometer breaking partner to help you out :romance-kisscheek:

There are many ways to tell some parts of cuts, rubbing between fingers and feeling the viscosity is one, heads have a different sting on the lips vs alcohol.You will get there eventually, its just an additional hurdle to jump.

Rinse and spit lots lols