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New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Retlaw02 » Sun Aug 16, 2026 3:47 pm

I’m thinking of getting some barrels, all the barrels I’ve seen seem too lacquered on the outside, will this affect the aging process
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby TheRealMrMessy » Sun Aug 16, 2026 5:09 pm

Generally not, it'll still breathe. The lacquer doesn't really seal it.

That said, from the bigger sellers I've had better results with ex-something barrels - ie ex wine, ex bourbon ex-etc.

I do also age with dominoes which if you're just getting started, its a better way to get an idea of what to expect flavour wise - even if a barrel will age better overall (asterisk, of course).
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby The Stig » Sun Aug 16, 2026 5:41 pm

Make sure they come with stainless taps and not chrome plated or brass
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Stillsmith » Sat Sep 05, 2026 5:55 pm

The Stig wrote:Make sure they come with stainless taps and not chrome plated or brass

I have had 5 barrels custom made by AP Johns, they are a very expensive Cooperage but extremally top quality. All of there barrels are made from new oak. i was completely surprised when they arrived with brass taps.

Spending a touch over $1000.00 on each barrel and being such an exclusive coopage i assumed that the taps would have been stainless steel. I know its lead free brass but still.... :-q

www.apjohn.com.au

they have the contract to cast Penfolds grange hermitage.
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Stillsmith » Sat Sep 05, 2026 7:20 pm

I forgot to mention my barrels were larger than the barrels in this thread.

3 x 100L & 2 x 70L
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby TheRealMrMessy » Sat Sep 05, 2026 7:22 pm

Most places call them wine barrels for a reason. The proof is fine and safe with them - up to around 20%.

Given they were custom, did you specify the intent to age spirits? If so then yeah, they did you a disservice.
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Wellsy » Sun Sep 06, 2026 9:20 am

Wow Stillsmith you have some serious amounts aging. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Party at your house in a few years time hey :laughing-rolling:
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Stillsmith » Sun Sep 06, 2026 10:41 am

TheRealMrMessy wrote:Most places call them wine barrels for a reason. The proof is fine and safe with them - up to around 20%.

Given they were custom, did you specify the intent to age spirits? If so then yeah, they did you a disservice.

Yes it was my fault as i did not specify i wanted to have stainless steel taps. it was something i just forgot to ask as i assumed they would automatically come in stainless considering they were custom made for spirits aging at 65%.

there aftermarket service to customers is fantastic, they helped me change flavour profiles using there Oak fans that are hung on a stainless steel lanyard below the shive. (bung)
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Stillsmith » Sun Sep 06, 2026 10:45 am

Wellsy wrote:Wow Stillsmith you have some serious amounts aging. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Party at your house in a few years time hey :laughing-rolling:

Some are ready to go know, i have a 100L of corn, wheat & malt Barley that has been aging for 8 years. i intend to remove the shive this week and see how much the Angels have drunk in 8 years. x_x
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Wellsy » Sun Sep 06, 2026 3:19 pm

If it is in a custom oak barrell why the need to hang oak below the bung.
100 ltrs @8 years of age now that is the stuff of dreams
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby Stillsmith » Sun Sep 06, 2026 5:13 pm

i got all of my barrels in medium Toast. the mini staves they sell is a way of introducing different Chars or different oak flavours.
i have 3 different Chars and 6 different Oaks. French, Appalachian, Hungarian & American.

i also use the differant mini staves to age in glass also. the Hungarian oak is lovely to age peach brandy.
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Re: New small barrels 5-15lt

Postby TheRealMrMessy » Sun Sep 06, 2026 7:22 pm

I do the same, some of my barrels are getting on for 10th use. But after around the third they start getting some staves added to give some fresh oak just to restore a few of the notes.
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