Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby WoodyD40 » Thu May 23, 2024 8:58 pm

The Stig wrote:Stripping


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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Sun May 26, 2024 2:08 pm

I did my first spirits run ever today on my WBAB wash that started at 9% .
As i have mentioned previously i have only ever done Turbo washes before and never done a spirit run with them .
Both the stripping run and this spirit run were done with the Airstill flow chart collecting volume , just until i get my head around doing cuts .
First 3 stripping runs of 1350mls gave me just over 4 litres of 36% ABV undiluted alcohol .
Start to finish for the spirits run took 4 1/4 hours in the Airstill .
Threw 50 mls of foreshots away .
Collected 250mls of Heads which started at 87% ABV and finished at 86% ABV .
Collected 1000mls of Hearts which startd at 86% ABV and ended at 70% ABV .
Then 4 x 100 ml jars which started at 70% ABV and ended at 50% ABV .
The 250mls of Heads smell like s#*t.
The 1000 mls of Hearts smell nice so i tasted them , hard to explain , sort of spicy and grainy .
I will let the 4 x 100 ml jars air out overnight and sniff tomorrow .
I have ordered some Oak Dominoes from 5 Star .
Are these added to the Hearts and maybe some tails before diluting down to 40% ?
Cheers,
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby The Stig » Sun May 26, 2024 4:51 pm

Making is usually done at around 60-65%
They should be with you Tuesday or Wednesday :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Tue May 28, 2024 7:32 am

The Stig wrote:Making is usually done at around 60-65%
They should be with you Tuesday or Wednesday :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Due for pick up today .
Thanks Stig . :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby The Stig » Tue May 28, 2024 7:37 am

The Stig wrote:Making is usually done at around 60-65%
They should be with you Tuesday or Wednesday :handgestures-thumbupleft:

That should of course been aging not making :teasing-tease:
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Tue May 28, 2024 1:33 pm

I got my Oak Dominoes this morning .
So i had my 1000mls of hearts then 4 x 100mls of tails i guess.
The first 3 smelt alright , the fourth smelt a bit funky .
I don't know if i should have done it but i added the first 3 x 100mls of tails to the hearts , still smelt good and tasted nice .
I now have 1300 mls of 65% ABV aging .
Go the mighty Airstill . :D :clap:
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby WoodyD40 » Fri May 31, 2024 7:21 pm

Sounds like a great success. Well done, I know a lot of effort has gone into that so far
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:20 am

BUCKET wrote:I did my first spirits run ever today on my WBAB wash that started at 9% .
As i have mentioned previously i have only ever done Turbo washes before and never done a spirit run with them .
Both the stripping run and this spirit run were done with the Airstill flow chart collecting volume , just until i get my head around doing cuts .
First 3 stripping runs of 1350mls gave me just over 4 litres of 36% ABV undiluted alcohol .
Start to finish for the spirits run took 4 1/4 hours in the Airstill .
Threw 50 mls of foreshots away .
Collected 250mls of Heads which started at 87% ABV and finished at 86% ABV .
Collected 1000mls of Hearts which startd at 86% ABV and ended at 70% ABV .
Then 4 x 100 ml jars which started at 70% ABV and ended at 50% ABV .
The 250mls of Heads smell like s#*t.
The 1000 mls of Hearts smell nice so i tasted them , hard to explain , sort of spicy and grainy .
I will let the 4 x 100 ml jars air out overnight and sniff tomorrow .
I have ordered some Oak Dominoes from 5 Star .
Are these added to the Hearts and maybe some tails before diluting down to 40% ?
Cheers,
Bucket

I tried a different approach this time .
I did 2 stripping runs and ran it down to about 25% ABV at the parrot , the Airstill was basically doing nothing by this time .
This gave me 2 x 2 litres for my Spirits run .
I discarded 50mls of foreshots , then collected cuts and used what i thought smelt and tasted good .
This gave me 1500mls of alcohol , but it only came out at 40% ABV .
Can someone explain what has happened ?
I have it Oaking on toasted oak chips this time just so i can taste it this weekend , still smells good .
I will continue to try and get higher ABV to be Oaked on the Dominoes for a longer period .
Can i run the Airstill at 2700mls for a Spirits run instead of the 4 litres like suggested by Airstill ?
This way i could do 2 stripping runs as per my first attempt and maybe get higher ABV , without having to do 3 to get the 4 litres .
Cheers,
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby WoodyD40 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:22 am

BUCKET wrote:
BUCKET wrote:This gave me 1500mls of alcohol , but it only came out at 40% ABV .
Can someone explain what has happened ?

Can i run the Airstill at 2700mls for a Spirits run instead of the 4 litres like suggested by Airstill ?
Cheers,
Bucket .


First question:
Not sure why that happened, unless because you went further into the stripping run, you ended up with a lower ABV in air still for the stripping run for that volumn of spirit.

Second question:
Yes. I have run the air still with only 2 litres in it, it does not need to be full each time.
It’s like running a kettle at only 1/2 full - it boils quicker so you are not wasting as much power.
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:53 am

Forgot to add that for the 2 stripping runs that gave me 2 x 2 litres , i started with the 4 litres that Airstill recommend .
Cheers,
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby RobMichelle » Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:47 am

BUCKET wrote:Forgot to add that for the 2 stripping runs that gave me 2 x 2 litres , i started with the 4 litres that Airstill recommend .
Cheers,
Bucket .

Gday Bucket,
When i run my stripping runs i only collect 1100ml which land about 35-38% abv depending on the wash.So if i do 6 stripping runs i collect these in a big glass jar, and then either divide it in two and do two spirit runs at 3ltrs or do a four ltr and keep the remaining lowines for when i do more of that wash.
With my spirit runs i discard first 50-80ml foreshots, then collect 250ml heads, then swap and collect 1000ml in a container around 75%, then swap to 100ml collecting till abv drops down to around 30% which can be 5-7 jars then blend these with the 1000ml on smell and taste to my liking.
I am currently fermenting 2nd generation nutrigrain wash and a 2nd generation cornflake wash and tomorrow will put down a rum wash,i have all my notes on each wash and still runs to refer to,
I couldnt get the volumes in the flow chart to work for me so i just adapted to what seems to work for me, i have some 5star dominoes ageing aswell as chips from various products which all seem to be coming along nicely.This may help you im not sure.
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:37 am

Thanks Rob , that's some good info .
Cheers,
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby Blythy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:36 am

Good Morning,

Sorry I am new to brewing so basic questions,

I followed the directions in the Tried and Proven thread, where it said to add the Epsom Salts and Yeast while ensuring the temp was at 27-30 Degrees. My temp was at 33 so I waited over night for it to go down.

My question is will it matter that I completed the wash bar the Salts and Yeast but added them in the next morning (Approx 12 hours later)

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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby The Stig » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:06 am

No it won’t matter unless the temp was way too low .
Bakers yeast like to be at 25-30 to be at its happiest
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby chipboy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:37 pm

For those doing generations with this, its amazing what comes out.
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:32 am

I put down a second generation WBAB wash over the weekend .
Started with the trub , there was still a bit of wash that i couldn't get out .
Added about 3 litres of cold backset which i had stored in a glass bottle .
Added some more cold water to a level where i thought the extra dissolved sugar would still fit in .
Dissolved 5 kg of raw sugar and only 1 1/2 cups each of Weetbix and Allbran .
Added this and was around 30°C .
Added the juice of a Lemon just in case .
Stirred it all up and let it sit .
It hadn't started bubbling after around 3 hours so i added 40 grams of Bakers Yeast .
Away it went after about 15 minutes .
Smells great and looking forward to distilling this .
Cheers,
Bucket .
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby Golly » Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:04 am

For those of you doing stripping runs and stopping at 25%, you're leaving a lot of flavour in that pot that you could be collecting.
I strip down to 10% on the airstill, and 5% if in my proper boiler.

As far as running it with 2L - i often run it with 1L of wash in there. This is generally me making extracts from vokda macerated botanicals..
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby howard » Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:14 pm

BUCKET wrote:Added the juice of a Lemon just in case .

Bucket .

it's probably best to adjust the PH a bit more scientifically :smile:
get to know your water/wash PH, then adjust as necessary after everything is mixed.
i adjust with McKenzies citric acid (woolies/coles) because i can accurately measure it in grams.
not forgetting that dunder & backset can be a bit acidic to start with.
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby The Stig » Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:57 pm

howard wrote:
BUCKET wrote:Added the juice of a Lemon just in case .

Bucket .

it's probably best to adjust the PH a bit more scientifically :smile:
get to know your water/wash PH, then adjust as necessary after everything is mixed.
i adjust with McKenzies citric acid (woolies/coles) because i can accurately measure it in grams.
not forgetting that dunder & backset can be a bit acidic to start with.

Lemon is probably not what you would want to add doing gen's , chances are your going to be too acidic and will need a dozen oysters to help lift the PH
Oh and one of these will be great help: https://5stardistilling.com/product/ph-test-meter/
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Re: Easy Weetbix / All Bran Wash Recipe Discussion

Postby BUCKET » Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:27 pm

Looks like i better get myself a PH Tester , :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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