Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby Sparrow » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:44 pm

Could you achieve the same result macerating the ingredients in a neutral?
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby beaull » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:58 pm

How do you the milky look when adding water, I have got the taste but not the milky look
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby rumsponge » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:04 pm

you need more star anis - i think.
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby Professor Green » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:42 pm

Based on your previous post beaull, it sounds like you steeped the ingredients in neutral then filtered it rather than pot stilling it is that right? If so I don't think you're getting the concentration of anethol from the star anise that you should be getting and therefore you won't get the louche you're looking for


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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby scythe » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:40 am

Louche comes from dissolved oils in the ethanol precipatating out when the ABV drops.
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby beaull » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:37 pm

I don't have a pot still but this tastes pretty good to me.
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby Professor Green » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:21 pm

Ah, OK.

How long did you leave the botanicals in the spirit before you filtered it?

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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby beaull » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:31 pm

I have the milky look, I just put in more star anise and left it a bit longer.
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby Professor Green » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:26 pm

A good result!

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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby danwbrews » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:00 pm

I'm not new to cooking or brewing, but I have a couple of questions about the recipe.

How much is a fistful of Star anise? I have read a blog that it is 1 cup. Is that about right? Sounds like a lot.


What type of cardamom pods are they. Green is immature, White are from Thailand, Black (brown) are from..... Blast... I can't remember. Maybe India or China.

Anyway, If someone could clarify I would sure put me at ease. I love Ouzo.
Thanks,
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby Zzpop » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pm

What temp or abv to stop ouzo run ?
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby Wobblyboot » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:17 pm

danwbrews wrote:I'm not new to cooking or brewing, but I have a couple of questions about the recipe.

How much is a fistful of Star anise? I have read a blog that it is 1 cup. Is that about right? Sounds like a lot.


What type of cardamom pods are they. Green is immature, White are from Thailand, Black (brown) are from..... Blast... I can't remember. Maybe India or China.

Anyway, If someone could clarify I would sure put me at ease. I love Ouzo.
Thanks,
Dan

A bit late but might help in future. Just grabbed a fistful o star anise an it roughly 1 cup and weighed close to 50g.
I use green cardamom when I need it https://www.thespruceeats.com/all-about-cardamom-995599

Zzpop wrote:What temp or abv to stop ouzo run ?

I collect in jars and stop when output is cloudy. Then throw the previous jar or 2 away as well. Every still will perform different, u can’t run urs based on how someone else does it.
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby danwbrews » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:18 pm

Wobblyboot wrote:
danwbrews wrote:I'm not new to cooking or brewing, but I have a couple of questions about the recipe.

How much is a fistful of Star anise? I have read a blog that it is 1 cup. Is that about right? Sounds like a lot.


What type of cardamom pods are they. Green is immature, White are from Thailand, Black (brown) are from..... Blast... I can't remember. Maybe India or China.

Anyway, If someone could clarify I would sure put me at ease. I love Ouzo.
Thanks,
Dan

A bit late but might help in future. Just grabbed a fistful o star anise an it roughly 1 cup and weighed close to 50g.
I use green cardamom when I need it https://www.thespruceeats.com/all-about-cardamom-995599

Zzpop wrote:What temp or abv to stop ouzo run ?

I collect in jars and stop when output is cloudy. Then throw the previous jar or 2 away as well. Every still will perform different, u can’t run urs based on how someone else does it.


Thanks, that makes me feel better. I just acquired a quarter barrel keg that I can move my heating elements to from my half barrel boiler. The smaller size will make this a little more affordable. Knowing quantities helps a lot. There's an Asian market close to me (on the way home from work ) that has great prices on spices .... some of which I wish I had an interpreter to help me find. :text-thankyoublue:
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Re: Pastis/Arak/Ouzo Recipe Discussion

Postby garouda » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:36 pm

So far I've been making my pastis like this:
in a 2-litre bottle (the one on the picture was my first attempt 1 litre or even 70cl, can't remember)
100g star anise
three to five chips of liquorice (root)
a teaspoon coriander seeds
some rosemary leaves
20grs sugar (not sure-a long time ago)
fill in the bottle with neutral (I could find 40%ABV only)
leave it for a fortnight and filter it (racking is enough), I got the nice cloudy yellow colour, and the taste was OK but not strong enough, because of the 40% limit....
Now I've just finished my first spirit run based on Ted's FFV, I want to use a higher neutral, but following the same recipe, target: pastis at 51% ABV (like Pastis 51) or 45% like Ricard...
I got about 8 litres of neutral at 95% ABV, I stopped collecting when I saw the t° rising and the smell became also quite stronger, there were 50 litres of low wines at 40% ABV in the boiler when I started my spirit run. So it'll be 4 litres Pastis down to 45 or 51% ABV, not decided yet and 4 litres Gin down to 43% ABV... :obscene-drinkingdrunk:
I may try to use my gin basket to produce my pastis, but not this time.
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