inline thumper on a 4"column

[BIG D]

I know a few of you boys run an inline 6"thumper or plate for a better word on a 4" bubbler wondering what the increase in power requirements vs output per hr is?

[Kimbo]

Ive never done the power comparison mate, I know i do use a little more..only coz the thumper allows me to run a little harder.
As for the output, I would guess at 1-2L/Hr increase :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[BIG D]

Thanks Kimbo I'm just looking for that bit more . :text-lol:

[bayshine]

iv found on my setup i need one 2400w element flat out and the other at about 150v on the controller :handgestures-thumbupleft:
but this is giving me about 3-3.5l an hour and I'm pretty sure I'm also getting a larger heart cut as i believe it helps to hold the tails back
next I'm going to play with the bath depth as i read that true thumpers hold a lot more liquid than just a bubble cap plate :think:

[MacStill]

if you go back through my builds here to the original dragon slayer you might find a fair bit more about it, I had an 8" thumper as my bottom plate, I'm on the ipad and havnt learnt to link and stuff yet so a quick search should find it.

with good run strategy you'll find not only an increas in speed but also with such a large plate on the bottom it'll be holding a lot more of the lower alcohols in the bottom of the still helping to compress the tails cut even further.

this ipads starting to give me the shits, apologies for the gramma 8-}

[BIG D]

I guess now what is the most cost effective way tò build that thumper Mac chime in please ;-)

[MacStill]

Do you want to build it yourself, or using FSD parts ?

Your answer will determine my response ;-)

[BIG D]

Fsd parts mac sorry for being vague but if it ain't broke don't fix it :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[MacStill]

Righto!

Let me sleep on it mate, I'll see what I can come up with........ might even have another plate in the shed the same as 1 2's in 6"

[whiskeyshiner]

with good run strategy you'll find not only an increas in speed but also with such a large plate on the bottom it'll be holding a lot more of the lower alcohols in the bottom of the still helping to compress the tails cut even further.

Ive never done the power comparison mate, I know i do use a little more..only coz the thumper allows me to run a little harder.
As for the output, I would guess at 1-2L/Hr increase :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Hi guys i think i may have ask you some questions about thumpers so sorry for being a bit slow. I'm just entrigued how you guys have mentioned a few times about a run strategy to get faster runs times. Is it as simple as more heat can be thrown in with a thumper on top of a pot or bubbler and it'll drive itself or do you say run stategy because its a complicated process and you might confuse people if you explained it and they attempt it without proper understanding?

if you go back through my builds here to the original dragon slayer you might find a fair bit more about it, I had an 8" thumper as my bottom plate

I'm just interested with all this bling 5 star gear you have lying around why do you personally not use a thumper anymore? All I see is positives to them but with your knowledge and experience and access to gear I would of thought there would be a reason you dont bother with them anymore?

Sorry for the newb style question I'm just intrigued with these thumpers and have been thinking i might build one for my pot for a long time.
Thanks :romance-kisscheek: :))

[bayshine]

ill leave this one to the experts as I'm just playing and learning :D
but you can hold or build up all of your distillate in the thumper,(no longer in the boiler) and when you think you have all the hearts in your thumper you can bleed them off really fast,giving a faster run :-B
there would also probably be other run strategies
just more toys for me to play with really :))

[MacStill]

Bayshine is on the right track almost, I'll respond more in detail tomorrow as I really should knock off for the night..... I have a different thumper to take care of soon :laughing-rolling:

[MacStill]

I'm just interested with all this bling 5 star gear you have lying around why do you personally not use a thumper anymore? All I see is positives to them but with your knowledge and experience and access to gear I would of thought there would be a reason you dont bother with them anymore?

Basically the reason is I'm not looking for extra speed or improvement of my product as I'm very happy using my 6" Pacemaker as is, I can run conservatively with an output of over 4.5 L/PH @ 93%, and as it's a hobby still I think anything more is just plain greedy and unnecessary ;-)

[Urrazeb]

I would guess at 1-2L/Hr increase :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Wow that's a huge increase!

I would think power input would be the same and you would have to adjust flow to the RC only :think:

[Kimbo]

Hi guys i think i may have ask you some questions about thumpers so sorry for being a bit slow. I'm just entrigued how you guys have mentioned a few times about a run strategy to get faster runs times. Is it as simple as more heat can be thrown in with a thumper on top of a pot or bubbler and it'll drive itself or do you say run stategy because its a complicated process and you might confuse people if you explained it and they attempt it without proper understanding?

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Hi WS, it comes down to a few things.
1.larger diameter column will allow greater output ( allowing more power)
2.if the thumper is set up correctly, the still can hold the complete distillate instead of letting it go back into the boiler.
3. once this is achieved, you can almost turn your Dephlag completely off ( almost like a potstill). I leave mine in a bit to keep compressing the tails. this in itself will give a faster output.

once you have got a thumper on the bottom of your column, you will soon work out how to run it efficiently, ( Every still is different) :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[BIG D]

I think I want 1. 8-}

[MacStill]

Lets sort it by email hey mate, depending how you want to go I might have enough gear here to put one together.... :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[BIG D]

Done :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[whiskeyshiner]

Hi WS, it comes down to a few things.
1.larger diameter column will allow greater output ( allowing more power)
2.if the thumper is set up correctly, the still can hold the complete distillate instead of letting it go back into the boiler.
3. once this is achieved, you can almost turn your Dephlag completely off ( almost like a potstill). I leave mine in a bit to keep compressing the tails. this in itself will give a faster output.

once you have got a thumper on the bottom of your column, you will soon work out how to run it efficiently, ( Every still is different) :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Interesting thanks kimbo im gunna have to get one of these :D looks like i got more researching to do then :laughing-rolling:

Basically the reason is I'm not looking for extra speed or improvement of my product as I'm very happy using my 6" Pacemaker as is, I can run conservatively with an output of over 4.5 L/PH @ 93%, and as it's a hobby still I think anything more is just plain greedy and unnecessary ;-)

:whistle: 4.5l an hour i can see your point :)) thanks that answers my question so thumpers are still offer great advantages you just have a great system so you dont need one :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[whiskeyshiner]

Been doing a bit of resesrch on these things because i think they are really cool what i dont get is elsewhere ive read that a thumper should be 30% of you boilers size and macs and kimbos thumpers are 6" on top of 4" plated columns so i cant see how they can hold all the alcohol from a run because that would be say 5 l from a 50l keg charge. With downcomer would these just be a different type of plate because there would still be vapour returning to the boiler :think: