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Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:40 pm
by Jedstar
Guys,
The other day I made a MACRum wash and followed the directions to the letter, except for the yeast, I wanted to try my newly purchased EC1118 out on it. I hydrated it in sugar water correct temp waited 15 minutes yeast was active and building, added it the wash that was at 30C. I then stirred it in and then waited an hour or more and absolutely nothing. I then reverted back to 80g Lowen's hydrated, activated, added and boom off like a rocket.
Can anyone give some tips of where I may have gone wrong? Does the EC1118 have any quirks I should aware of, most of the reading I've done tell of it being quite reliable.

Another question with pitching yeast, pour in the wash and leave OR pour in the wash and gently stir it evenly about?

Cheers

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 pm
by The Stig
EC1118 is a slow yeast, normally used for fruit or for champagne .
Bakers yeast is best for rum

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:55 pm
by Jedstar
thanks, any preference on pitching technique DUMP or STIR or doesn't matter?

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:56 pm
by Jedstar
thanks, any preference on pitching technique DUMP or STIR or doesn't matter?

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:08 pm
by Wellsy
Gidday Jedstar

I am no expert but as well as bing slow, I believe the EC1118 also prefers colder temps and maybe the 30 was a bit warm for it.

I have hydrated bakers yeast, I have gently stirred after hydration and i have dumped yeast straight into was then mixed in with both a spoon and an electric drill with paint stirrer.

I am yet to notice a difference so now I simply go with the easiest at the time.

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:37 pm
by The Stig
I always rehydrate and stir in like a man possessed

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:42 pm
by Wellsy
you just love leading with the chin dont you Stig

Mate you do everything like a man possessed, there is a reason for that, you are a man possessed Stig :laughing-rolling: , unfortunately no one has been able to work out possessed by what

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:49 pm
by RuddyCrazy
Wellsy wrote:you just love leading with the chin dont you Stig

Mate you do everything like a man possessed, there is a reason for that, you are a man possessed Stig :laughing-rolling: , unfortunately no one has been able to work out possessed by what


If The Stig IS possessed by the real Stig then no wonder his gin taste like medicine as he would of been doing everything at a 100 mile an hour :laughing-rolling:

Now when I use bakers yeast I just sprinkle it on the ferment then use my paint mixer to aerate the wash and find within a couple of hours the airlock is well and truly going.

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:12 pm
by hgwells
30 deg is fine for EC1118, as The Stig said it’s best in fruit washes and then ferments out in about the same time as other non fruit based washes with bakers yeast.

I also rehydrate EC1118 and then pitch. For bakers yeast I just throw it in when the wash is at 30deg and mix it through. Never had an issues

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:42 pm
by Professor Green
I had a WBAB that took months to complete with EC1118. Never again...

I always re-hydrate any yeast before chucking it on the fermenter - if nothing else, it proves the yeast is viable.

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:06 pm
by wynnum1
I used a yeast from one of those cider pouches and nothing happen for over a day so no activity does not mean yeast is a failure.

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:45 pm
by Amberale
Sometimes I rehydrate, sometimes I don’t.
I hit it with a high pressure stream from the hose of the final 5 litres or so of water to mix it in.
Anything from 24C to 34C hasn’t given me any problems.
I can’t see 1118 helping to get the subtle undertones of a rum wash. 8-}

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:37 pm
by Sam.
I would have left it longer....

Re: Pitching yeast

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:11 pm
by Jedstar
Well the result was the finished to 1010 in two days, I though it must have stalled but the taste and the hydrometer say otherwise, it was hot here on those days with the wash getting the 34c at one point. Hearing the message about matching yeast to product loud and clear, beside it is a TPSW with DADY yeast that is still running 12 days later. :? Its all hit and miss for me atm but learning all the time.