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Help with soldering

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:10 pm
by doogie
Hi Everyone
I've been tinkering making my own column and condenser and have hit a snag with one join (the last one) that I just can't get to take. Pics 1 & 2 show the outcome of my fourth attempt and pic 3 shows the other one that I had no trouble with. Needless to say these were spotlessly clean when I applied the flux. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Doogie

solder 1.jpg

solder 3.jpg

solder 2.jpg

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:49 pm
by bluc
Are you hard or soft soldering? If soft soldering looks way to hot to me :-B
Also what flux you using?

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:03 pm
by Dude
What bluc said, its way too hot. Try "tinning" the faces to be soldered first. Clean steel wool is best for cleaning for soft soldering.

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:16 pm
by doogie
bluc wrote:Are you hard or soft soldering? If soft soldering looks way to hot to me :-B
Also what flux you using?

Hi bluc & Dude, I'm soft soldering.
solder 4.jpg

solder 5.jpg


Dude wrote:What bluc said, its way too hot. Try "tinning" the faces to be soldered first. Clean steel wool is best for cleaning for soft soldering.


I'm using 25 grit sandpaper to clean the surfaces.

Thanks, I'm obviously trying to heat it up too quick.

Craig

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:21 pm
by bluc
Put more heat in thickest parts of copper let it heat souround. Also keep flame moving dont think about heating specific point spread heat over whole area...

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:18 pm
by doogie
Thanks bluc

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:24 pm
by scythe
This is why I dislike flux pastes.
I think you are having trouble because you keep burning the flux,
Try heating the opposite side of the pipe or about 1"below your join, no flame on the flux.
Let the heat soak up to your join.
Also I would reheat that join that you say is done, it looks like the solder isn't sealed and will leak.

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:30 pm
by bluc
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Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:35 pm
by doogie
Thanks guys

Dude's tip worked and I tinned the join, see my other post tonight to see the finished product. Hoping to give it a vinegar run tomorrow.

Doogie

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:12 am
by Dude
Great news. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Help with soldering

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:56 pm
by doogie
Need more help guys, I'm having trouble soldering a brass fitting to copper tubing. I've tried heating the brass first because I read it takes a bit more to heat up than the copper but I can't get the solder to run into the join, it just sticks to the copper around the top of the brass.

TIA
Doogie