Help. Think I've stuffed up.

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Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby Dusty_ben » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:08 pm

Just running my first spirit run of mac rum. 4 gens in it ATM. But I just realised I through some sanitizer in
The boiler. Swished it around. Topped it out but forgot to rinse with fresh water before I put the stripped rum
In. Should I restrip it again the spirit run it? Or just put more water in it n continue spirit running? Typical newbie rushing hope I haven't stuffed it. Cheers ben
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby the Doctor » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:19 pm

Well Ben you certainly would not be the first one of us that has done that...

Firstly what was the sanitiser you used, If it was Phosphoric acid based (star - san) or Hydrogen peroxide ( proxitane) based you will not have a problem, as you leave it behind in the boiler and they are relatively short lived.

Now i am assuming that we are talking just a surface spray of sanitiser ...not gallons of it.

I do not understand why you are sanitizing a boiler that will contain boiling wash. as the act of distilling is an effective way of killing off all the nasties.

Most of the standard sanitisers are food safe and have short chemical lives, they often break down to water and oxygen. Let us know a bit more, but chances are that you will be fine.

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Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby Dusty_ben » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:28 pm

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This is what I used. It has been open
Outside for a few days so I assumed it couldn't hurt. Haha.
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Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby Dusty_ben » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:28 pm

The boiler was open for a few days I meant.
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby zombie » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:34 pm

You hit it just before me Doc.

Everything I've read about sanitizers agrees with your post, and I wanted to settle Dusty's nerves. Not that I would... but you could swim in most of the brewing sanitizers sold with no issues. I think it's all a moot point in distilling anyway.
Beer brewing never hits sanitary temps. and is apparently prone to weird infections. That's why the HBS sell tons of sanitizer.
I think that is why the IRISH love distilling. So we have something safe to drink without going to the shop.
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Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby Dusty_ben » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:38 pm

Thanks guys. Do feel a lot better now. She's flowing and smelling great. Not the waiting behinds.
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby Andy » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:14 pm

yeah that stuff would be safe to eat and drink. its put in wine
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby the Doctor » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:19 pm

The only danger that Sodium Metabisulphide has is that for asthmatics it can cause asthma attacks. It is fairly benign though in sm,all quantities.
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby Wineleader » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:35 pm

Hi all,

I am an experienced winemaker and use potassium metabisulphate throughout the winery. Notwithstanding, I am new to this hobby and after reading a number of posts I was of the view that sulphur was the enemy of distilling. Hence the need for copper in the system. Therefore I was using proxitane for sanitising the fermenters etc. Am I missing something here?

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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby scythe » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:59 pm

Proxitane does the job.
And its always a good idea to limit the sulfites you put into your spirits.
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby Kenster » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:05 pm

Wineleader, as Doc alluded to/stated... the whole point of sanitizing a vessel which will boil for several hours does not make any sense at all. Contamination will never be an issue as with wine/beer sensitivities...besides, we are chasing (usually) very high proof output...not a lot of stuff survives that environment. Simply put...it aint wine. After a brew, i just rinse my boiler with the hose...no drama so far.
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby ultrasuede » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:58 pm

sodium metabisulphite wont affect your yeast in such a low concentration. In fact, your yeast will probably benefit from the small amount of sulfur.
I've use Starsan to correct the PH in my wash in a pinch, to no ill affect, different stuff, but you get the jist.
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Re: Help. Think I've stuffed up.

Postby warramungas » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:46 pm

Kenster wrote:Wineleader, as Doc alluded to/stated... the whole point of sanitizing a vessel which will boil for several hours does not make any sense at all. Contamination will never be an issue as with wine/beer sensitivities...besides, we are chasing (usually) very high proof output...not a lot of stuff survives that environment. Simply put...it aint wine. After a brew, i just rinse my boiler with the hose...no drama so far.


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