BigRig wrote:1. Turbo wash does take like crap. I personally wouldnt drink it so you might as well use it as a sac run on the alembic dome. If you then did a couple strippin runs the still would be plenty clean for a spirit run. I wouldnt bother with a clean water steaming.
2. You can do as many stripping runs as you like as long as you have enough low wines to fill the boiler for a spirit run. The general rule is low wines should not exceed 40%abv however If you wanted to run with 20%abv that is fine, you just wont get as much alcohol. (Also wont be as long a run).
The more you dilute with plain water as opposed to stripping wash down to low abv (10-20%) the less flavour you will get.
BigRig wrote:if you can put the parts in the dish washer you wont need the vinegar run. Combine the 2 jars for the sacrificial run on the alembic dome.
With the stripping runs keep everything > heads, hearts and tails, run the stripping runs down until you are getting 20% abv off the still.
combine the 3 amounts for the spirit run and do your cuts then, remembering to throw the 1st 250mls out for foreshots.
For the T500 you would use the same process but you would only use this for your neutral spirits as it strips flavour.
Wellsy wrote:Gidday Matt
Many of us on here have boilers with exposed elements, that is elements that sit in the wash. With your T500 my understanding is it uses a digiboiler that has an enclosed element, one that is under the base of the boiler.
The reason many suggest the 3 stripping runs is so that there is plenty of spirit in the boiler as anybody with an exposed element must ensure the elements stay covered at all times or as Marvin the Martian would say “ there is a kaboom, an earth shattering kaboom” and the element needs to be replaced.
Another advantage of a bigger spirit run is the cuts tend to be more pronounced due to the volume being used. With your boiler you could in theory do a spirit run after 1 stripping run.
When you run your rum wash give yourself some extra room in the boiler mate as I believe they can foam up a lot more than a regular wash.
I hope I have not added to the confusion mate as there is so much to absorb with this hobby. Have fun
McMoonshineMatt wrote:
Using the water flow regulator i could only manage about 1.8L/min output water flow. Acceptable or do i need the 2.5L/min some suggest?
Drips started to come out at around 55C, then slowly went up to about 87C where Abv was coming out at 81% then fluttered there for a an 40min say then slowly climbed to 90 for about 20min @50%Abv then up to 93-94 and that's where i shut it down.
I know the t500 operates by measuring water outlet temps and using the water regulator but the pot still runs differently, if you are using the dome you want full flow. You will use a power controller to determine boil rate / alcohol take off rate. Do you have a power controller ?
Thanks for the info on only maybe doing 2 stripping runs as i was thinking the 3 stripping runs then a spirit run on the Alembic might be a too much in a 25L Boiler. Because as i understand it being a 25L Boiler, 3 watered down strips could possibly be too much for the boilers capacity? And in saying that, what actually is the highest abv you could get away with in the boiler to start your stripping run, or either run for that matter in both forms of stilling?
Assuming your fermenters are the 30L HBS variety you will get about 6 Litres of (40%) stripped low wines off a tried and proven TPW (providing you strip down to 20% off the still). if you did 3 strips then topped up to 20L line with water you will be fine. i wouldn't go over 20L.
For safety you do not want to go above 40% abv in the boiler, regardless of what run it is or still you are using. The alcohol vapour is flammable.
BigRig wrote:McMoonshineMatt wrote:
Using the water flow regulator i could only manage about 1.8L/min output water flow. Acceptable or do i need the 2.5L/min some suggest?
Drips started to come out at around 55C, then slowly went up to about 87C where Abv was coming out at 81% then fluttered there for a an 40min say then slowly climbed to 90 for about 20min @50%Abv then up to 93-94 and that's where i shut it down.
I know the t500 operates by measuring water outlet temps and using the water regulator but the pot still runs differently, if you are using the dome you want full flow. You will use a power controller to determine boil rate / alcohol take off rate. Do you have a power controller ?
Thanks for the info on only maybe doing 2 stripping runs as i was thinking the 3 stripping runs then a spirit run on the Alembic might be a too much in a 25L Boiler. Because as i understand it being a 25L Boiler, 3 watered down strips could possibly be too much for the boilers capacity? And in saying that, what actually is the highest abv you could get away with in the boiler to start your stripping run, or either run for that matter in both forms of stilling?
Assuming your fermenters are the 30L HBS variety you will get about 6 Litres of (40%) stripped low wines off a tried and proven TPW (providing you strip down to 20% off the still). if you did 3 strips then topped up to 20L line with water you will be fine. i wouldn't go over 20L.
For safety you do not want to go above 40% abv in the boiler, regardless of what run it is or still you are using. The alcohol vapour is flammable.
McMoonshineMatt wrote:BigRig wrote:McMoonshineMatt wrote:
Using the water flow regulator i could only manage about 1.8L/min output water flow. Acceptable or do i need the 2.5L/min some suggest?
Drips started to come out at around 55C, then slowly went up to about 87C where Abv was coming out at 81% then fluttered there for a an 40min say then slowly climbed to 90 for about 20min @50%Abv then up to 93-94 and that's where i shut it down.
I know the t500 operates by measuring water outlet temps and using the water regulator but the pot still runs differently, if you are using the dome you want full flow. You will use a power controller to determine boil rate / alcohol take off rate. Do you have a power controller ?
Thanks for the info on only maybe doing 2 stripping runs as i was thinking the 3 stripping runs then a spirit run on the Alembic might be a too much in a 25L Boiler. Because as i understand it being a 25L Boiler, 3 watered down strips could possibly be too much for the boilers capacity? And in saying that, what actually is the highest abv you could get away with in the boiler to start your stripping run, or either run for that matter in both forms of stilling?
Assuming your fermenters are the 30L HBS variety you will get about 6 Litres of (40%) stripped low wines off a tried and proven TPW (providing you strip down to 20% off the still). if you did 3 strips then topped up to 20L line with water you will be fine. i wouldn't go over 20L.
For safety you do not want to go above 40% abv in the boiler, regardless of what run it is or still you are using. The alcohol vapour is flammable.
No i dont have power controller but i am thinking the way this is heading. that it will be my next purchase.
Yes i have the 30L Fermenters. But just one question, are you suggesting that i put my TPW's through the Alembic(or was it just an example), as i was going to run them through the T500 as they are only going to provide a neutral spirit.
The dark tinge that appears on the bottom of the copper dome, is it normal and do i just leave it as being seasoned so to speak, or do i try and make it shiny copper?
BigRig wrote:Talking about your molasses / alembic pot run, Run it at 100% power whilst bringing wash up to temp, once you hit temp you want to dial the power down to maybe 30% to start with. You want a Drip...Drip...Drip. this will be fores so the slower you can take it off the better. collect first 250mls then throw it. After this you will start taking off heads
> then hearts > then tails. You can turn the power up to get a faster drip.drip.drip.dribble if that makes sense (maybe 40%). As the run progresses and the alcohol is depleted you will find yourself increasing the power to maintain the collection speed. When you hit the manky wet dog smell/taste you are in tails so you can put the power up to 100% and strip as much as you want to keep. These are feints and can be used at a later time.
Collect the alcohol in 250ml jars and put them aside to air for 24hrs before doing your cuts.
BigRig wrote:yeah mate you will be fine, get amongst it.
If you screw up, re-run it.... my first RUM was run 3 times before i got it the way i wanted :music-deathmetal:
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